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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 17:14:58
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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Given that Henry VIII told his ancestor to frakk off, what chance has she with this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21835363
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner says she has asked for the Pope's intervention in the Falklands dispute between her country and the UK.
Visiting the Vatican, Ms Fernandez said she had asked the Pope to promote dialogue between the two sides.
Argentine Pope Francis was elected last week and will be formally installed as pontiff at a Mass on Tuesday.
In the past he has said the Falkland Islands, a UK overseas territory, belong to Argentina.
Before Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio was elected, the 76-year-old was Archbishop of Buenos Aires. Relations between him, Ms Fernandez, and her late husband and predecessor as president, Nestor Kirchner, were tense.
"I asked for his intervention to avoid problems that could emerge from the militarization of Great Britain in the south Atlantic," Ms Fernandez told reporters after a 15-20 minute meeting and lunch with the Pope.
"We want a dialogue and that's why we asked the pope to intervene so that the dialogue is successful."
The BBC's Alan Johnston reports from Rome that there has been no word yet as to how the Pope responded to the appeal.
In a referendum held a week ago, people in the Falkland Islands voted overwhelmingly in favour of remaining a UK overseas territory.
At a Mass last year, he told Argentine veterans of the Falklands War: "We come to pray for all who have fallen, sons of the Homeland who went out to defend their mother, the Homeland, and to reclaim what is theirs."
British Prime Minister David Cameron said last week that he "respectfully" disagreed with the view expressed in the past by Pope Francis that the Falkland Islands had been "usurped" by the UK.
Mrs Kirchner is the first head of state the new pope has met. She presented him with a mate gourd and straw for drinking traditional Argentine tea.
The two also kissed, and Mrs Kirchner remarked afterwards: "Never in my life has a pope kissed me!''
Ms Fernandez gave a muted welcome to the Pope's election. The two have clashed in the past, especially over social reforms promoted by her and her late husband in the face of Church opposition.
When the then-Cardinal Bergoglio argued that gay adoptions discriminated against children, Ms Fernandez said his tone harked back to "medieval times and the Inquisition".
Mr Kirchner once referred to him as the "head of the opposition".
Last year, the cardinal said Argentina was being harmed by demagoguery, totalitarianism, corruption and efforts to secure unlimited power, the Associated Press reports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 17:19:54
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Theoretically, he could call on all Catholics to launch a crusade against Britain to free the Malvinas, and an express way to heaven for them. He could excommunicate the heads of Latin America if they don't comply.
Or he could just make a nice chicken soup and watch some good soccer.
I don't think "the people's Pope" gives a whit about the Falklands.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 17:20:08
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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[MOD]
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Nestor is a good classical name, though. I think it comes from the Iliad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 17:20:53
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Gl;hf.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 17:47:22
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wow, really? They just refuse to give up...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 17:58:44
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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Multiple threads here.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 18:04:40
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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Longtime Dakkanaut
The ruins of the Palace of Thorns
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I was shocked when I saw this. Bearing in mind that her and the new Pope don't get on anyway, I think she will get short shrift, but this woman really is awful, isn't she?
As for the fate of the Falklands - each government only care because of the territorial rights associated with the islands. If anything, the UK have a slightly stronger legal case, as we've possessed the islands since before Argentina even existed as a nation, and Argentina's claim is based on the fact they used to belong to Spain. However, in the absence of agreement between the international community and the two governments, the views of the islanders must be respected, and they have made their views clear. Even if the original islanders were only put there by the UK government to secure UK rights to the island, the modern inhabitants have been there for generations and it is their home. If we went back hundreds of years to settle property rights, then we'd have half the world back, please, and thank you very much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 18:40:25
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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That makes them annoying, but also make them dangerous. They could outlast us due to the prevalence of politicians and civil servants who are up their own bottoms.
My waking nightmare is not an invasion but a rise of self obsessed short sightedness that plagues politics in the UK. That coupled with a dogma of self hatred for colonial guilt might end up our undoing. It might be rather odd to hand over the Falklands and betray its inhabitants to modern day Conquistadors out of colonial guilt, but consistency and common sense are hardly the hallmarks of PC crowd and their apologists from the Guardian.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 18:54:42
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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Ian Pickstock
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That was the first thing I thought. England has good form when it comes to fending off papal attacks
I seriously doubt the pope would be stupid enough to take an overt stance on a foreign policy issue between two nation states though. He will probably make a neutral, spiritual statement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 19:00:29
Subject: Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Fifty wrote:If anything, the UK have a slightly stronger legal case, as we've possessed the islands since before Argentina even existed as a nation, and Argentina's claim is based on the fact they used to belong to Spain.
"possessed" is being used very liberally here, unless you count co-settlement with Spain 'possession'.
Personally, I don't see why y'all can't just split the Falklands, East Falkland to the UK, West Falkland to Argentina. Thats basically the way the original split between Spain/ UK was way back when (and was also the split at the time the UPRP settled the islands in the early 19th century), as I understand it, and from what I understand West Falkland Island is barely inhabited, if at all, correct?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 19:05:02
Subject: Re:Obviously this woman has no clue on British history
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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This is already pretty much covered in the ongoing threads relating to the Falklands, be neater if we take all such discussion to that thread.
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