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At my local store it is allowed at games over 1000 pts.

Do you think it is too powerful?

People at my store used to think it a waste for its points till I fielded one in a 500pt anything goes kill team tourney and swept everyone w/ my GKs. That is how it got restricted to 1000pts and above.

On topic: I assume you mean the Fortress of Redemption? At 500-1000pts it seems like kind of a waste...

Manners do you have them?

I have never used, seen or went against one yet.

I didn't think your opponent had the option to not allow you to use your Fortress of Redemption. I agree it would be kind of a waste at point values below 1000 or so, but I kind of thought it was just an optional purchase, not an optional rules set. I don't have a book to hand though, so I could be wrong.

Using it in such a small points environment is a bit of a douche move, though completely legal.

Using one of them at that low of a points value seems like a TERRIBLE idea. You've got WHAT percentage of your points wasted on it? If your opponents can't bring an anti-tank weapon or two at low points, that's THEIR fault.

The fortress is awsome at around the cost of a Landraider, but really only at 1500+ IMO. You need guys inside to man the Icarus Lascannon and the "sex-in-a-can" frag/krakstorm missile silo.


If your opponents couldn't beat a FoR at such low points, thats their problem. Seriously, the thing's a liability that that point level.

My store allows it, if you have the model, What my store doesn't allow is me dropping Lilith (DE) on the fortress to fire the fragstorm. She has a BS 0f 9 so she NEVER scatters of target, even with a scatter of 12 still clipping original target, but there is one thing thats much more important. SHE IGNORES SAVES! I sent a fragstorm into the local TFG termie hoarde, over half of them got vaporized by frag! Thats why the dont let *me* use the fortress

No where I have been has anyone tried to complain about someone using the FoR. Its part of your regular FoC now, I couldn't really see people justifying this. To me, that would be like saying "no fast attack slots in this store, because people don't want you getting to their gun line".

In a game by game basis I could see it, similar to setting up an armor facing total on vehicles under a certain points value, or not allowing the second FoC, such as 1999+1 games.

My two cents.

It's powerful, but expensive. Fielding one in low points is akin to a LR. One of the reasons I make sure I can deal with hard targets at any point level.

My FLGS allows them. My best friend fields one as part of his SoB army.

I've only even seen one used before, that was at a tournament and it was done mostly for the lols.

I think the biggest issue is simply the logistics of it, transporting it along with your army could be quite troublesome.