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With the Crusader almost painted and plans to make a Redeemer next, I was toying around with the idea to make a list incorporating the two styles of Land Raider. Need help optimising.

Main points of contention:

1) Would love an excuse to field more terminator Wolf Guard, and Wolf Guard Heavy Weapons.
2) A suicide drop pod would be fun, but could it be had?
3) The Crusader is not filled to capacity.


Land Raider 1: Land Raider Redeemer, Multi-Melta:
Cargo: Wolf Priest, TDA, Combi-Plasma.
5 Wolf Guard, TDA, Combi-Plasma

Land Raider 2: Land Raider Crusader, Multi-Melta.
Cargo: 10 Grey Hunters, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, two plasma guns.
Rune Priest, TDA.
Wolf Guard with TDA and Combi-plasma.
Wolf Priest, Saga of the Hunter.

2 x 10 Grey Hunters, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, two plasma guns. Rhino.

Long Fangs: 5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers.
Wolf Guard, TDA, CML

Aegis Defence Line with Quad Gun

Comes out at 1996 points.

Wolf guard Terminators are nice, but expensive. Normally, that wouldn't be a problem but this time you've got two Land Raiders to pay for too.

Why not get rid of all of the WG pack leaders, then put 15 blood claws with a wolf priest in the Crusader.

Keep the WG unit in TDA in the Redeemer, but put your Rune Priest in power armor with the long fangs. If this saves you 140-ish points, use it on more long fangs. If it only saves you 50 or so, you should use it on an Iron Priest to repair hull points on the Land Raiders.

But honestly, I don't think you've got enough scoring bodies for a 2000 point game.

If you take land raiders you might aswell take blood claws since they are in the codex for this reason

Hi,

Grey Hunters are far superior to Blood Claws in nearly every way, so stick with them. Have you considered not having quite so many characters though and switching the raiders around?

Eg:-

Logan Grimnar (275pts) - makes your expensive Wolf Guard scoring
7 Wolf Guard in terminator armour with 7 combi-weapons and 2 power fists (286pts)
Land Raider Crusader (250pts)

Wolf Guard +with combi-plasma and power weapon (33pts)
10 Grey Hunters with 2 plasma guns, mark of the wulfen and wolf standard (185pts)
Land Raider Redeemer (240pts)

10 Grey Hunters with 2 plasma guns, mark of the wulfen, wolf standard and rhino (220pts)

10 Grey Hunters with 2 plasma guns, mark of the wulfen, wolf standard and rhino (220pts)

Wolf Guard with terminator armour and cyclone missile launcher (63pts)
5 Long Fangs with 4 missile launchers (115pts)
Aegis defence line with quad gun (100pts)

Total = 1987pts

Hope this helps

~BB~

Frankly, I think the list would be better with no wolf guard at all. Consider this unit..



While it will pretty much kill anything it comes into contact with, it also costs more than 800 points. You're going to have a hard time killing 800 points worth of the enemy with just 9 models.

You'd be better off putting Logan in a drop pod with 4 terminators (instead of the land raider). That way, you can put them right where you want them on turn 1 and you'll reduce the cost also.