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Hey guys,

Astral aim gives the target unit a 4+ cover save that cannot be modified in any way.

Perfect timing gives the psyker and his unit ignore cover.

is ignoring a cover save modifying it? how would you play this?

spongemonkee wrote:
Hey guys,

Astral aim gives the target unit a 4+ cover save that cannot be modified in any way.

Perfect timing gives the psyker and his unit ignore cover.

is ignoring a cover save modifying it? how would you play this?

I'd go with the unit shooting is ignoreing cover, they are being modified. The cover save can't be modified and nothing you did directly increased, decreased, or removed it. But I suppose it can go either way. I'm interested in what others have to say.

It is not a modifier according to the rules governing Modifiers, as you are not setting the value or altering the value, but ignoring it - and ignoring is is not defined as a modifier

nosferatu1001 wrote:
It is not a modifier according to the rules governing Modifiers, as you are not setting the value or altering the value, but ignoring it - and ignoring is is not defined as a modifier

That'll do for me.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
It is not a modifier according to the rules governing Modifiers, as you are not setting the value or altering the value, but ignoring it - and ignoring is is not defined as a modifier

I can buy that. Would like to check my BRB for the rules section Nos mentioned to see how it is worded, but that makes sense from his description.

just noticed in the faq it states that there is no cover save if incinerators are used as they ignore cover saves so that must apply to psycannon with perfect timing too.


*when using astral aim with incinerators