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Exactly like the title asks. Can a prince just be like peace yo i'm outtie! and swoop out of there if he is in unfavorable combat?? Thanks in advance. I did use the search function didn't find anything.

I'm going to assume a model cannot move if it's engaged in combat so no.

Yes, it certainly can.

Then it dies immediately.

Since you can't move when locked in combat, it's impossible to move at least 12 inches to swoop.

I understand where you're coming from.. but you can't be in combat with a flyer.. and it doesn't say anywhere that a monstrous flying creature can't elect to swoop in its movement phase if it's locked in combat

SmackTalk wrote:
I understand where you're coming from.. but you can't be in combat with a flyer.. and it doesn't say anywhere that a monstrous flying creature can't elect to swoop in its movement phase if it's locked in combat

If it's locked in combat, it can't move except to make Pile In moves. If it elects to Swoop, it's still locked in combat (as the prohibition is on Assaulting swooping models, not on being locked in an assault with them) and so is prohibited from moving. It can't move the mandatory 12", so it can't Swoop.

I'm with the: "no you cannot" posters. You are not allowed to elect to move a model (other than pile ins) while locked in combat; however in order to 'Swoop' you have to move a minimum of 12 inches. You cannot do this so therefore you cannot change the flying monstrous creatures' flight mode.

"units already locked in close combat with the enemy cannot move during the Movement phase." Page 10 BRB, MOVING AND CLOSE COMBAT

"Flying Monstrous Creatures can move using one of two flight modes: Swooping or Gliding." Page 49, BRB, Flight Modes

As being able to move is required to use a flight mode and you are unable to move during the movement phase while locked in CC you are not allowed to select any flight mode.

 Abandon wrote:
"units already locked in close combat with the enemy cannot move during the Movement phase." Page 10 BRB, MOVING AND CLOSE COMBAT

"Flying Monstrous Creatures can move using one of two flight modes: Swooping or Gliding." Page 49, BRB, Flight Modes

As being able to move is required to use a flight mode and you are unable to move during the movement phase while locked in CC you are not allowed to select any flight mode.

'Can move' =/= 'Required to move'. Changing movement 'Mode' does not state a requirement to be able to move. It's just not a great idea considering the FMC would be removed as a casualty at the end of the movement phase. One of those; 'Just because you can, doesn't mean you should....' moments.

 Bausk wrote:

 Abandon wrote:
"units already locked in close combat with the enemy cannot move during the Movement phase." Page 10 BRB, MOVING AND CLOSE COMBAT

"Flying Monstrous Creatures can move using one of two flight modes: Swooping or Gliding." Page 49, BRB, Flight Modes

As being able to move is required to use a flight mode and you are unable to move during the movement phase while locked in CC you are not allowed to select any flight mode.

'Can move' =/= 'Required to move'. Changing movement 'Mode' does not state a requirement to be able to move. It's just not a great idea considering the FMC would be removed as a casualty at the end of the movement phase. One of those; 'Just because you can, doesn't mean you should....' moments.

Look at the next paragraph. "At the start of its move, a FMC must declare whether it is Swooping or Gliding ...."

If you can't move, you don't have a start of a move to declare a mode in. And I don't see any indication it would be removed as a casualty for failing to move over 12", in fact I don't see any penalties in the rules at all. So the penalty would be an out of game one. Namely your opponent telling you to stop cheating.

Chrysis wrote:
Look at the next paragraph. "At the start of its move, a FMC must declare whether it is Swooping or Gliding ...."
If you can't move, you don't have a start of a move to declare a mode in. And I don't see any indication it would be removed as a casualty for failing to move over 12", in fact I don't see any penalties in the rules at all. So the penalty would be an out of game one. Namely your opponent telling you to stop cheating.

This. You don't have any permission to move, which you need to declare that you're going to Swoop. So you can't do it, full stop.

The second point's also correct - there's nothing that tells us what to do if a Swooping FMC can't move the minimum 12" - going off the board is covered, and there are currently no FMCs that can be pinned. The only way I can see it happening is if the FMC went to ground in the previous Shooting phase, as this doesn't stop you from declaring you're in Swoop mode even though you can't make the move. An FAQ answer for that would be nice.

But regardless - the precedents we have for what to do with models that can't complete mandatory moves are the following:
1) trapped units that are falling back are destroyed, but this isn't falling back.
2) models that can't emergency disembark are removed, but the FMC isn't disembarking.
3) zooming flyers that can't move the minimum distance are Wrecked - but you can't apply Wreck to a non-vehicle.

Wow thanks guys for the great replies!