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I'm going to be trading my tyranids for dark angels this week which I'm planning on converting into CSM but I'm not sure which god to go with. I already play Orks and I intend on using the CSM as allies (notably for low AP weapons and high BS) and having the CSM use orks as allies too (mostly for the bulk). I'm currently leaning towards either nurgle or khorne but its had to say since I haven't played CSM in a long time.

I wouldn't waste points on any marks if you're gonna use Chaos as allies. Maybe put Mark of Nurgle on Oblits if you choose to use them.

Using chaos with ork allies is really dependant on what you'll be running. A cc Chaos list varies a lot from a shooty one. Chaos and orks can make a very shooty combo. Lootas + nob death star + gretchin manning a ADL. Throw in some Havocs or what not and you've got a nice army.

I say Nurgle your marines and give them biggest guns you can. Makes them a real thorn in the enemy's side since you'll be running boyz between your marines and their units, and you can fire off the big guns when you get a chance. Havocs are a great idea, but don't underestimate a properly equipped marine squad.

Paint them however you want and pick tzeentch.


If it's purely fluff tzeentch has managed to weedle his way into the mind of your armies leader and is using them as a part of some over arching scheme.

That's how I'll run my Black Templars sometimes to explain why I'm fighting other loyalist Marines. My armies leader has been corrupted against his knowledge and is being told that the other army is really the ones who are corrupted and need to be destroyed.

For low ap weapons we talking like 2 or like 3? Ap3 go Tzneetch rubric marines for AP2 go either plague marines or chosen, the fact that chosen can take 5 plasma in one squad is scary

The cool people make their marines worship Malice.

Tzneetch would be a bit trickier to convert but the AP 3 spam would be nice, however for the orks I would want a reliable source of AP 2.

 ArchVile wrote:
Tzneetch would be a bit trickier to convert but the AP 3 spam would be nice, however for the orks I would want a reliable source of AP 2.

You can't "spam" 1k sons as allies because the CSM elites can never be troops unless they are the primary detachment. So you'll be looking at some horrible tzeentch marked marines, acompanied by overcosted ap3 bolters.

Want more melee to melee with the orks? Go khorne.
Want high initiative, and gun's that ignore cover, or feel po pain troops? Go slaanesh
Wan't very tough, resillient troops? Go nurgle.
Want...er....um...Yeah don't go tzeentch for troops. Maybe thousand suns, but not actual tzeentch marines.

You can't "spam" 1k sons as allies because the CSM elites can never be troops unless they are the primary detachment. So you'll be looking at some horrible tzeentch marked marines, acompanied by overcosted ap3 bolters.

I was referring to when they are being played by themselves. As in it would be nice to have lots of AP 3 shots for a change.

10 CSM, 2xplasmaguns and MoN would be your best bet as allies. Sv3+, T5, S7 Ap2 shots, I usually invest on the icon as well but that is because whenever the CSM get into combat without fearless there is a huge chance that they'll run and get swept. That shouldn't be a problem with a wall of boyz between the enemy and them thou.