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This weekend I played a game with my Orks versus my friends Tyranid army. Both of us are still fairly inexperienced with 6th and a combat came up which confused us a little.


A squad of Gargoyles (15) charged my Ork Boyz (18) & Warboss. I killed a couple with Overwatch and he made his charge distance.
He then charged what I think was a Ravager (spawns ripper swarms from fallen enemies) and made his charge distance.

His Ravager killed a couple of Boyz and the Gargoyles with their Hammer of Wrath & basic attacks laid waste to 10 or so Boyz. My Boyz struck next and several Gargoyles were removed. The Warboss was last and only managed to remove one Gargoyle.

I failed my Morale check and he swept me.


To sweep your opponent you just need to roll higher (models don't move)? I ask because if I should have fallen back the distance rolled he would have passed my Boyz but not the Warboss.

Am I correct in saying I could have challenged the Ravager with my Warboss and he would have been unable to refuse as he was by himself?


Thank you.

Sweeping Advance is an Initiative Check, to see if you can outwit the foe as you attempt to scramble away. If you win that roll, then I believe you roll again to see how far you get. If your opponent chases you then they must stop 1" away from you, even if they roll high enough to move further than you did.

But I am not checking the rulebook. This is just how I believe it works.


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I don't know if the Ravager is a character and thus able to be challenged. If you can Challenge him then I would probably say he could hide behind the gargoyles, but the letter of the rules may not agree with me.

It's the Parasite of Mortrex you're referring to.

Im still relatively new to 40k, but as I understand it, to sweep you need to roll a D6 and add you initiative. If the sweeper comes out higher, then the fleeing unit is destroyed, but ends up where the running unit would have fled to (their 2D6 fall back move). I think at least. Maybe the sweeper doesnt move. Im at work and dont have my rulebook to hand, sorry!

Also, that unit that spawns rippers was the Parasite of Mortrex, not a Ravener

I think, if you beat the Iniative+D6 test as the winner, you get to consolidate instead of moving 2D6 in pursuit.

Unless the model has to challenge you can always refuse and that model just doesn't participate in the fight.

It is very clear in the combat resolution section on page 27.
Roll and add to initiative, compare the results.
If the winner of combat rolled higher, that's all she wrote and the squad is SA'd wiithout moving. The winner consolidates.

I'm trying to figure a Gardgoyle using a Hammer of Wrath attack against an ork boy ... or anything sturdy

Anyone else is picturing a fly on a windshield ?

TanKoL wrote:
I'm trying to figure a Gardgoyle using a Hammer of Wrath attack against an ork boy ... or anything sturdy

Anyone else is picturing a fly on a windshield ?

It's like seaguls crashing into the nazi fighter plane in The Last Crusade, one isn't an issue but when the plane goes through a flock it becomes an iusse.
On another note, I'm going to watch that film now.

If the winner of the combat rolls equal too or higher than the losers initiative the losers are swept and the winners get a d6 consolidation move.. There are other variables like Atsknf buts that's. irrelevant to this argument right now.

Lungpickle wrote:
If the winner of the combat rolls equal too or higher than the losers initiative the losers are swept and the winners get a d6 consolidation move.. There are other variables like Atsknf buts that's. irrelevant to this argument right now.

Umm..no.

Both players roll 1d6 and add their own initiative to their own die roll. Those results are compared.

Lungpickle wrote:
If the winner of the combat rolls equal too or higher than the losers initiative the losers are swept and the winners get a d6 consolidation move.. There are other variables like Atsknf buts that's. irrelevant to this argument right now.

The bears no relationship to the rules for the last 3 editions now. Please review them before contradicting the people who got this right, as it saves spreading disinformation

Last note, very much unlike previous editions, you now use the highest Int instead of majority which is a major boon for Orks, not so much for other races. So the Warboss rolls D6 + int 4 even if (and he always does, right?) have a PK. That's on par with average SM and equivalents.

P.S. I hope your boss had a BP ...