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MOVEMENT PHASE

1. A flyer comes on the board.

2. A weapon with interceptor shoots at it.

3. Flyer elects to evade and evades the shot.

SHOOTING PHASE

Now comes that particular flyers shooting phase, he can only snap fire.

Now what happens next turn? as the rule states it is to last until the player's next turn...does this mean the flyer incurs a TWO turn penalty?

That makes no sense but my local gaming group is starting to interpret it that way. I just do not think the interceptor rule is some sort of magical gateway for a two turn penalty.

That would be correct. An intercepted flyer that evades (not jink) would indeed by firing snap shots for that turn and the next.

 insaniak wrote:
That would be correct. An intercepted flyer that evades (not jink) would indeed by firing snap shots for that turn and the next.

Its not a gateway to a magical double penalty for evading.

It makes no sense but that is RAW for you. If your FLGS decides to stick with it they are playing just like it is written and can continue to do as so until it gets FAQd

Your next turn is your next turn. There is no way to interpret it to mean anything other than your next turn.

So yes, as it currently stands, Interceptor does double the penalty for evading.

 insaniak wrote:
Your next turn is your next turn. There is no way to interpret it to mean anything other than your next turn.

So yes, as it currently stands, Interceptor does double the penalty for evading.

Remember this post when they FAQ it to read " until the end of the player's next shooting phase"

I was right about JOTWW

I was right about Blood Lance

I am right about this.

I'll continue to play it however the tournament TO says to play it but its far form unanimous right now.

 mk2 wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Your next turn is your next turn. There is no way to interpret it to mean anything other than your next turn.

So yes, as it currently stands, Interceptor does double the penalty for evading.

Remember this post when they FAQ it to read " until the end of the player's next shooting phase"

I was right about JOTWW

I was right about Blood Lance

I am right about this.

/end of thread.

OP has declared his complete lack of willingness to accept any viewpoint other than his own, everyone can go home now.

 mk2 wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Your next turn is your next turn. There is no way to interpret it to mean anything other than your next turn.

So yes, as it currently stands, Interceptor does double the penalty for evading.

Remember this post when they FAQ it to read " until the end of the player's next shooting phase"

I was right about JOTWW

I was right about Blood Lance

I am right about this.

You act like FAQs don't change rules.

 mk2 wrote:
Remember this post when they FAQ it to read " until the end of the player's next shooting phase"

Nothing in my post is incorrect as the rules currently stand.

Yes, if they decide to change the rules, the rules will be different. That doesn't change the way they function right now.

 insaniak wrote:

 mk2 wrote:
Remember this post when they FAQ it to read " until the end of the player's next shooting phase"

Nothing in my post is incorrect as the rules currently stand.

Yes, if they decide to change the rules, the rules will be different. That doesn't change the way they function right now.

I never said you were incorrect, I was just generally mentioning to remember this thread and I inadvertently quoted you.


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 Avatar 720 wrote:

 mk2 wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Your next turn is your next turn. There is no way to interpret it to mean anything other than your next turn.

So yes, as it currently stands, Interceptor does double the penalty for evading.

Remember this post when they FAQ it to read " until the end of the player's next shooting phase"

I was right about JOTWW

I was right about Blood Lance

I am right about this.

/end of thread.

OP has declared his complete lack of willingness to accept any viewpoint other than his own, everyone can go home now.

That just is not true, obviously I am playing it the way I don't agree with, I am simply stating that every time a rules as intended conversation comes up , I am eventually proven right.

I added this line for clarification: * I'll continue to play it however the tournament TO says to play it but its far form unanimous right now.

 mk2 wrote:

That just is not true, obviously I am playing it the way I don't agree with, I am simply stating that every time a rules as intended conversation comes up , I am eventually proven right.

That's all well and good, but I don't think anyone else was discussing RAI anywhere in this thread. RAW was the primary topic, and the consensus there is about as unanimous as you'll ever get in a forum discussion.

Dumb rule? Yup.
Is it still the rule? Yup.

As far as your opinion of RAI, this may not be changed in a FAQ. From a tactical perspective, it gives players one more reason to take things like flickerfields, so they don't have to bother evading to get that save.

I am simply stating that every time a rules as intended conversation comes up , I am eventually proven right

No offense, mk2, but this is not an RAI thread. You initial post was asking a RAW question.

Now what happens next turn? as the rule states it is to last until the player's next turn...does this mean the flyer incurs a TWO turn penalty?

This is very clearly a question about RAW.

That makes no sense but my local gaming group is starting to interpret it that way.

Again, RAW. They are starting to interpret it that way because that's what the rule says.

I just do not think the interceptor rule is some sort of magical gateway for a two turn penalty.

This is your RAI part of the thread. There is no question following this statement. If you had said "do you think this rule will change when they FAQ it?", or "Do you think this was the intention of the rule?" or even said "Do you think this is an unintended result of a poorly written rule?" and then received the same type of responses; then maybe you would have justification to argue that you will be proven right about a RAI argument.

As it stands however, you asked a RAW question, "What happens next turn?" and were given a RAW answer.

Lehnsherr wrote:

I am simply stating that every time a rules as intended conversation comes up , I am eventually proven right

No offense, mk2, but this is not an RAI thread. You initial post was asking a RAW question.

Now what happens next turn? as the rule states it is to last until the player's next turn...does this mean the flyer incurs a TWO turn penalty?

This is very clearly a question about RAW.

That makes no sense but my local gaming group is starting to interpret it that way.

Again, RAW. They are starting to interpret it that way because that's what the rule says.

I just do not think the interceptor rule is some sort of magical gateway for a two turn penalty.

This is your RAI part of the thread. There is no question following this statement. If you had said "do you think this rule will change when they FAQ it?", or "Do you think this was the intention of the rule?" or even said "Do you think this is an unintended result of a poorly written rule?" and then received the same type of responses; then maybe you would have justification to argue that you will be proven right about a RAI argument.

As it stands however, you asked a RAW question, "What happens next turn?" and were given a RAW answer.

You realize you said absolutely nothing in that post that was not already evident.

I'll switch over to the appropriate forum, sorry you had to click on this thread and read 3 sentences pertaining to RAI,

I think we're done here. The question has been answered, so I'm going to lock to prevent any further snarkiness.