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Please be as cruel as possible as twist and wreck this list until only awesome sauce is left...
I want it to be competitive all-comers list.

List 1:

Company Command Squad, 205 pts (Plasma gun x3, Astropath, Officer of the Fleet)
Chimera w/ Heavy Flamer

Guardsman Marbo, 65 pts

8 Psyker Battle Squad, Overseer 100 pts

Veteran Squad, 190 pts (Plasma gun x3)
1 Chimera (Heavy Flamer; Dozer Blade)

Veteran Squad, 190 pts (Melta gun x3)
1 Chimera (Heavy Flamer; Dozer Blade)

Platoon Command Squad (Flamer x3)
Infantry Squad (Flamer x1 Autocannon)
Infantry Squad (Flamer x1 Autocannon)
Special Weapons Squad (Flamer x3)

1 Vendetta (Heavy Bolter Sponsons x2)
1 Vendetta (Heavy Bolter Sponsons x2)
1 Vendetta

1 Aegis Defence Lines, 100 pts
1 Gun Emplacement (Quad-gun)

1 Manticore Rocket Launcher, 160 pts (Heavy Flamer)
1 Manticore Rocket Launcher, 160 pts (Heavy Flamer)
1 Ordnance Battery 1 Griffon (Heavy Flamer)

List 2:
Company Command Squad, Astropath (Plasma gun x4)
1 Chimera (Heavy Flamer)

8 Psyker Battle Squad, 100 pts 1 Overseer
6 Psyker Battle Squad, 80 pts 1 Overseer

Troops: Veteran Squad (11#, 180 pts)
Veteran Squad, 180 pts (Plasma gun x3)
Chimera (Heavy Flamer; Dozer Blade)

Platoon Command Squad (Meltagun x4)

Infantry Squad (Flamer x1) 1 Heavy Weapons Team (Autocannon)
Infantry Squad (Flamer x1) 1 Heavy Weapons Team (Autocannon)

6 Special Weapons Squad (Meltagun x3) <– Vendetta
6 Special Weapons Squad (Flamer x3) <– Vendetta

1 Vendetta (Heavy Bolter Sponsons x2)
1 Vendetta (Heavy Bolter Sponsons x2)
1 Vendetta

1 Manticore Rocket Launcher, 160 pts (Heavy Flamer)
1 Manticore Rocket Launcher, 160 pts (Heavy Flamer)

Ordnance Battery, 150 pts:
1 Griffon (Heavy Flamer)
1 Griffon (Heavy Flamer)

1 Aegis Defence Lines, Quad Gun

If I really wanted to make this second list overkill - I would remove the two griffons for a 4th vendetta and heavy bolter sponsons x2 on the third one

What is your opinion of these lists
Please scrutinize as much as possible

Thank you

Well you can certainly cut and paste from Kirby's blog if nothing else. A fourth Vendetta seems overkill/unecessary to me. I personally prefer the look of the first list.

I like the look of the first list. But I would have a Primaris Psyker. You can knock down the Ld of an enemy with the Battle Squad, and use the Telepathy Primaris Power to force them to take a 3D6 Ld test, taking wounds when failing. They also NEED a Chimera to ride in.

List 1 - Yikes
List 2 - Yikes

Both lists, how about a democharge in the SWS?

I like List #2. Redundancy is key for Guard. I second Phantom Master on the PBS chimera, but I think PBS can't use Weaken Resolve from inside in 6th ed? Even then, they can always disembark and then use it.

Also the Primaris, That will also give you another option for Warlord for some matchups where you want your CCS to be more aggressive.

You don't need 2 Griffons AND 2 Manticores. You just won't see that much 4+ in competitive play. Swap the Griffons out for a single Colossus to clear MEQ's out of cover. I have a Griffon myself and I always proxy it as a Colossus now. Also for the longer range.

I like the Demo Charge in the Melta SWS, but not the Flamer SWS. Just because it is more useful for TEQs, MEQs, and Lt-Med Armor.