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I've got some questions regarding the Black Legions armour.
1) How well do the BL take care of their armour? I'm asking as I'm doing a BL force that has just landed on a planet and I was wondering how much weathering I should do.
2) Would it be correct fluff wise if I used some of the FW Sons of Horus parts? Or would they have gotten rid of all of the Sons of Horus iconography when they painted their armour black?

Thanks in advance.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
I've got some questions regarding the Black Legions armour.
1) How well do the BL take care of their armour? I'm asking as I'm doing a BL force that has just landed on a planet and I was wondering how much weathering I should do.
If I recall correctly they mantain their armour quite good, as far as a Chaos Marine can, of course. So I'd say make 'em look dirty, but not too much
2) Would it be correct fluff wise if I used some of the FW Sons of Horus parts? Or would they have gotten rid of all of the Sons of Horus iconography when they painted their armour black?
As the Codices say some, if many, of the Chaos marines are the same who fought in the Siege of Terra during the Horus Heresy, so yes, you can use the Sons of Horus iconography on 'em
Thanks in advance.

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1) worn but well maintained. Paint scratched off but no rust or other signs of poor maintainance.

2) They completely ditched the Sons of Horus iconography. They view Horus with the utmost disgust. A weakling and a failure. They hate him possibly more than the Emperor.

Sure? o_O To me seems like some of 'em still had it.



the Eye of Horus

That's fan art so you can't really use it as evidence. Besides i think it's still their new symbol, which looks similar to the old Eye of Horus.

Its fan art but its really not much different to the Black Legionaires on the covers of the two chaos codices before the current one.

The 'new' emblem is just a a corrupted variant of the Eye of Horus, back in 1st edition Black Legion were purely black - they sensibly discarded the emblem of Horus along with his name, but the painting department found that boring so decided to stupidly bring it back in 2nd edition, much like they did with the Red Corsairs in 3rd edition.

Remember gents.. It's chaos.. They do what they want.. The only hard set rule is that they pledge loyalty first and formost to Abaddon, as long as they each have some heraldry to him all good... However I could readily imagine some!! sons of Horus that still pledge loyalty to the progenitor.. (Maybe they were caught in a warpstorm for a few millennia or survivors for the first time Abaddon razed the remaining Horus clone loyalists) General rule of thmb with chaos, as long as you show loyalty to the warlord, and are of coarse strong enough to fend of the 'hazing' from contemporary BL members you can do what you want...
However I could only imagine that these traditionalists would have formed there own cult by now.. But the strongest squads/ lords may have felt 'safer' (or a chance for more glory) within the ranks of BL

Sons of Horus and Black Legion share the iconography of the eye of Horus, so you could mix is up pretty easily, the off-green/black might clash a little or look strange though.

Aaron Dembski-Bowden wrote:It’s hard to reply without saying too much, but where the Ultramarines are “generic” Space Marines (as much as I love them, that’s not an insult – they are 95% of the template for the concept itself, which in turn is one of the things I love most about their implementation), the Black Legion aren’t the generic template for the Chaos Marines. They’re not the “default” Chaos Marines in the same way. Instead, they’re everything about Chaos. The best and worst of it; the best and worst of every single Legion. You can point to an Ultramarine and say “That’s a Space Marine”. You can’t do that with a Black Legionnaire, and say “That’s a Chaos Marine”. Uh, is he a former Son of Horus? A Word Bearer exploring his faith in a new way? A Renegade newly sworn to the Black? A Thousand Son sorcerer? A guy who forgot his original Legion completely? A Khorne Berzerker? There’s no “generic” Black Legionnaire. Former Sons of Horus are as defined and unique as any other Marine in the Legion.

In other words, whatever artistic vision you are seeking license for, you have! I think some Black Legionnaires with Sons of Horus parts would be totally kickin! Are you going to have the Sons of Horus iconography intact, painted over, or defaced? (Any or all of those options would work, in my opinion.) Personally, I'd go with a mix, and I'd also toss in some armor from other legions, warbands, and chapters, just to keep it fresh and varied.

As to the weathering, again, go nuts. You could even mix and match. If it were me in your shoes, I might consider taking a scaled approach based on how hardcore the model in question was. Basic line troops get festooned with mud (or sand or snow or whatever your landscape revolves around), and the farther up the command structure you go the cleaner the armor gets, until you get to your HQs who are rocking some shiny black, showroom finish armor. Alternately, you could go the other way, with your HQ's waist deep in blood and entrails (if you like this option, Secret Weapon Miniatures has some nifty resin bases to save you a lot of time in getting all the gruesome details you could want, in two different levels of gore!) Of course, you can also use this as an opportunity to do whatever you like with weathering. (Personally, I can't stand weathering my models, but some folks really enjoy it!)

Bottom line is that there isn't a real strict standard with this army that you have to follow. As part of a group so random they are called Chaos, whatever you come up with will probably still be in the realm of believability.

Really looking forward to seeing this army in the P&M Showcase! Do post some pics for us when you get them all done!

as for mixing and matching... I would try to keep it to squads... in chaos (both warp and people) like minds gravitate towards each other...
Mind you, the only set rule about chaos id there is an exception to EVERY rule