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Hey everyone. There is a pretty farr of tournament at my local game store in October. I know this is way early, but I would very much like to have a fully painted force, and well im a busy guy. I also will still need to be expanding my army, as i may not even have 1850 points, although im not sure. I will provide a list of the models i currently own, and hopefully some DA vets can chime in on the subject of what to think about purchasing in the future as well as what combinations work best on the table

I have sort of just been purchasing whatever, trying to be casual about it this time around(yeah right). Unfortunatley this has left my army a little unfocused and missing vital elements i may be missing out on.

Hopefully a little later this evening I will be able to respond with and 1850 list.



Here are the models I own:



- Dark Angel Half of DV Box Set inc. Seraphicus

- Ravenwing box set, W/ MM attack bike and Typhoon Speeder with a HB. This is the old box, not sure if it makes a difference.

-Rhino W/ magnetized hunter killer

-Nephilim Jetphiter W/ lascannon and AMB magnetized

-Deathwing Knights

-Scouts with Sniper Rifles and Missile launcher.

-Toronado Patter Speeder W/ Assault Cannon and Heavy Bolter

-Black Knights

- 3 Bikes W/ Two PLasma Guns

-Belial

- Azrael (sort of, i ususally use the DV company master as a counts as)

- one unfinished DW command swuad box, im torn between how to model them. Maybe this will point me in the right direction



OK! there is all is. Ill be trying to get a list done asap so we can get this going. Early observations, thoughts, comments, and ideas very much welcome.



thanks,

--Aaron

You should rename the thread to have "Dark Angels" in the title.

Also shame on you for taking Azrael.

uhhhh ohhh.... reasoning?

Azreal is a pretty cool guy. He unlocks a lot for troops and he has an amazing loadout, but he is an awkward boy. he doesn't fit in with the guys he unlocks, so it's hard to give him a "body guard.

but he is cool in other kind of lists if you work around him.

- Dark Angel Half of DV Box Set inc. Seraphicus
- Ravenwing box set, W/ MM attack bike and Typhoon Speeder with a HB. This is the old box, not sure if it makes a difference.
-Rhino W/ magnetized hunter killer
-Nephilim Jetphiter W/ lascannon and AMB magnetized
-Deathwing Knights
-Scouts with Sniper Rifles and Missile launcher.
-Toronado Patter Speeder W/ Assault Cannon and Heavy Bolter
-Black Knights
3 Bikes W/ Two PLasma Guns
-Belial
- Azrael (sort of, i ususally use the DV company master as a counts as)
- one unfinished DW command swuad box, im torn between how to model them. Maybe this will point me in the right direction

Well to me the first thing with Azrael is you want to use both options meaning DW and RW.
Due to the points, I would leave Belial at home.
For the benefits I would add either Ezekiel or a generic Librarian...
Then you have to determine what banner you want to play.... For now I will recommend the Banner of Fortitude... Reason being it gives you the largest area of effect...

So let's start off...

Azrael 215
Ezekiel 145
Cmd Squad: 4 Plasma Guns, Banner of Fortitude 245
Tactical Squad 10 Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon 170
Tactical Squad 10 Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon 170
5 Sniper Scouts: 1 ML , Camo Cloaks 80
RW Bike Squad: 3 Bikes 2 w Melta, 1 Attack Bike w MM 155
DW Squad: 1 Assault Cannon, 1 Chainfist 245
Nephilim 180
5 Black Knights 210

1760

So the preface of this is to have FNP bubble in effect for most of the army...
I went plasma heavy to take advantage of that vs gets hot. The RW squad can combat squad and scout move hopefully picking off two armored vehicle. The Knights can scout move forward and shoot up a high firepower unit like a devastator or loota squad.
The DW squad teleports in near the RW squad or the Black Knights and split fires on whatever you need dead --- hopefully the assault cannon can pick off yet another vehicle. The tacticals, cmd squad and snipers along with Ezekiel and Azrael form the core.
Ezekiel takes Divination spells to assist in your fire accuracy while he keeps mindworm to allow he or Ezekiel to dominate any HTH needs. The Nephilim can handle any anti-air needs otherwise it shoots at high value ground targets.

If you don't want to take the Nephilim, you have options of bike squad or Landspeeders...

What you suggested is only 1815 unluss im reading something wrong. Im not sure if i am keen on more tac squads. Also i would really like to get a recomendation for that to make out of the deathwing box, im leaning towards regular termies, although ive had [see forum posting rules] luck with the deathwing knights. Totally unsure about the command squad.

The problem with Deathwing is the points per squad... At that point, I would just do Belial and be done with it.

Belial 190

DW Squad - 10 man 490 - 2 Ass Can 2 Chainfists
DW Squad - 5 man 240 - Plas Can 1 Chainfist
DW Squad - 5 man 240 - Plas Can 1 Chainfist

1160

Bike squad 3 RW: 2 Melta Gun 1 Attack Bike w MM 155
Bike Squad 3 RW: 2 Melta Gun 1 Attack Bike w MM 155

You do a turn 1 DW strike and combat squad each of your bikes. Scout move and attack vehicles... the DW then deep strikes in without error off of your 4 bike units... Belial deep strikes in wherever you need him - without error.

so this is 1470 leaving you with 380 points to modify your force... DW Knights, Nephilim, DW Command Squad, Librarian in Termie armor....



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trucktruck wrote:
What you suggested is only 1815 unluss im reading something wrong. Im not sure if i am keen on more tac squads. Also i would really like to get a recomendation for that to make out of the deathwing box, im leaning towards regular termies, although ive had [see forum posting rules] luck with the deathwing knights. Totally unsure about the command squad.

The tactical suggestion has more to do with Azrael being in the army... He can attach and give them the +4 invulnerable save. Now the DW box is tough... Knights are fun but no firepower... a real issue with a Deathwing build. The command squad is also a tough choice - really that comes down to do you want the DW banner, Banner of Fortitude in this army or not. Is +1 Attack or FNP important to you or not? Knights are neat but again a points sink for no firepower... That is your choice - although S10 attacks seem pretty sweet to me.

Yeah, I think witht he unfinished box, ill just make some more reg termies. Command squad seems unnessecary at the moment and i already have five knights, and like you said while smiting someone straight to hell is awesome, no guns scares me.