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New Rule
Trick shot can only be used by units with a BS and Initiative of 5 or more. It cannot be used if the soldier is carrying a heavy weapon. The soldier may use trick shot individually, not as a unit. Trick shot allows one shot that can target anything in its range, line of sight not needed, hits automatically and ignores armour saves. Afterwards the unit may not assault. If part of a unit, it may charge into assault but not attack for that turn.

No

Okay then... Just an idea...

Well that was rude...


Silvake,

Don't take what Valkyrie did as the norm here. Anyways, on to your suggestion.

I can see it having a lot of balance issues in its current state and Precision shot I've felt does a pretty good job of representing the "trick shot" or "called shot" abilities that are in a lot of RPGs. If you really wanted to go along the lines of hitting something not in LOS because of a ricochet, you could have some fun with that.

Maybe using a tape measure and actually showing the path the shot would take could be fun. I'd make it so every bounce makes it -2 BS, the firing model cannot move or charge, I'd get rid of the initiative requirement, but must be a character.

Hope that helps

It did a lot thanks!

Silvake wrote:New Rule
Trick shot can only be used by units with a BS and Initiative of 5 or more. It cannot be used if the soldier is carrying a heavy weapon. The soldier may use trick shot individually, not as a unit. Trick shot allows one shot that can target anything in its range, line of sight not needed, hits automatically and ignores armour saves. Afterwards the unit may not assault. If part of a unit, it may charge into assault but not attack for that turn.

Do you feel good about this? mixing CALL OF DOODY into our BEAUTIFULLY BALANCED AND COMPLETELY PURE GAMING SOCIETY where ALL TACTICS ARE RESPECTED EQUALLY AND NO ONE SAYS LOLURACAMPERN00BT00BER.

I am being so very facetious. This rule is overpowered and downright silly. I'm afraid it's a No from me, Tom.

rabid1903 wrote:Well that was rude...


Silvake,

Don't take what Valkyrie did as the norm here. Anyways, on to your suggestion.

I can see it having a lot of balance issues in its current state and Precision shot I've felt does a pretty good job of representing the "trick shot" or "called shot" abilities that are in a lot of RPGs. If you really wanted to go along the lines of hitting something not in LOS because of a ricochet, you could have some fun with that.

Maybe using a tape measure and actually showing the path the shot would take could be fun. I'd make it so every bounce makes it -2 BS, the firing model cannot move or charge, I'd get rid of the initiative requirement, but must be a character.

Hope that helps

VALKYRIE REMEMBERS.

HE REMEMBERS THE DAYS OF CAP'N SOLON.

Anyway, if you want to make trick shots, make them snap shots. Then, include a rule about "12 year old gamer nerdrage", where the player may throw his model at his opponent (his controller, no less!) if it fails to hit, and blame the soldiers death on the noobtoobers and y'know, people who use sniper rifles properly.

Well... That was an unexpected reply...
Also I do not play Call of Duty, I detest most Shooting video games. Again, it was just an idea... Okay, no need to get so angry about it. Just thought a rule along those lines could be render some players the benefactor.

Silvake wrote:
Well... That was an unexpected reply...
Also I do not play Call of Duty, I detest most Shooting video games. Again, it was just an idea... Okay, no need to get so angry about it. Just thought a rule along those lines could be render some players the benefactor.

I'll echo Rabid's comments both about what you're trying to achieve and also the rudeness of some of the posters. If they have nothing constructive to add I don't see why they're posting.

You might be interested interested in a little Ratling Sharp Shooter character from the 2e Imperial guard codex named Stumper Muckstart (Love it, I hope he comes back!). He had a rule where he could pick to do a "Killer shot" or a "Trick shot". Trick shot essentially gave D3 shots that turn as opposed to the Killer shots reduced armour save. If you wanted to relate that to 6e perhaps a character model could forgo precision for D3 shots?

This may be something that would be effective in a Kill Team situation, but not for normal 40k.

Silvake wrote:
Well... That was an unexpected reply...
Also I do not play Call of Duty, I detest most Shooting video games. Again, it was just an idea... Okay, no need to get so angry about it. Just thought a rule along those lines could be render some players the benefactor.

Yet you

A. Think that trick shooting with sniper rifles is possible
And b. think that it is at all accurate, even to the point of "auto hitting" on character who would otherwise hit 33% of the time with a sniper rifle.

We're giving you ridiculous responses because you're giving us ridiculous ideas. You think that a guy firing a rifle that he usually can't move even a meter with and hit 83% of the time can suddenly jump up, spin and while falling, hit a shot EVERY time?

Please, go and fire a sniper rifle, while spinning and falling ~4 meters.

Fine change it: only in Kill Team and with Pistols… also the replies should not be insults but constructive criticism.


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 disty wrote:

Silvake wrote:
Well... That was an unexpected reply...
Also I do not play Call of Duty, I detest most Shooting video games. Again, it was just an idea... Okay, no need to get so angry about it. Just thought a rule along those lines could be render some players the benefactor.

I'll echo Rabid's comments both about what you're trying to achieve and also the rudeness of some of the posters. If they have nothing constructive to add I don't see why they're posting.

You might be interested interested in a little Ratling Sharp Shooter character from the 2e Imperial guard codex named Stumper Muckstart (Love it, I hope he comes back!). He had a rule where he could pick to do a "Killer shot" or a "Trick shot". Trick shot essentially gave D3 shots that turn as opposed to the Killer shots reduced armour save. If you wanted to relate that to 6e perhaps a character model could forgo precision for D3 shots?

Now that is a good idea… Just need to go and dig out my old IG codex.

Woah, why's everyone so stink... da heck

However, I wouldn't really desire a rule such as this. I feel the precision shots are a sufficient 'representation' of what you're trying to say. I mean if something like this was to be implemented, I think every single ork model should have it by default since they're just so damn tricky

On a more constructive note, what I feel you're trying to do is make a sort of 'heroic' precision shot. Since all characters can get precision shots, I'd just say ICs (so sergeants are out...) get a heroic precision shot which has all the normal stuff but is also rending.
In terms of it not needing LOS, that's a bit crazy coz Ill just chuck this Captain here on a quad gun... you get the picture. If you still want to satisfy that maybe chuck in ignores cover or something.

What I gained from this: orks, tyranids and deathwing are cuddly, blood angels and inquisitors really aren't

 Scipio Africanus wrote:


Yet you

A.

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