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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 16:52:40
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
Murrieta, CA
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Has anyone else noticed just how insane over watch on broadsides are?
I got to use supporting fire on the broadsides to deliver 12TL SMS shots and 3 TL rail shots (I can only imagine how much more sickening this would have been if I were using the High Yield Missile pods). With supporting fire they can protect another unit.
What are your thoughts on using HYMP broadsides with the system that boosts overwatch to BS2?
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Space Marines (Anything but BA or GK): 6k
Tau: 3k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 17:21:17
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Yes they would be extremely destructive with BS2 overwatch. I just feel its sort of a waste of points. Broadsides can only take one support system, and interceptor is definitely the way to go for missilesides. Having a >200 point unit there simply to babysit firewarriors isn't a very good use of points. Its more icing on the cake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 17:48:06
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Plus you don't really need the counter-fire support system with good markerlight support adding BS to overwatch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 17:52:05
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Morphing Obliterator
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The problem with markerlight support for overwatch is that you have to snapfire the markerlights as they only count for the current phase. So it isn't really reliable.
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Playing mostly Necromunda and Battletech, Malifaux is awesome too! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 18:07:15
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Nasty Nob
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Thaylen wrote:Has anyone else noticed just how insane over watch on broadsides are?
I got to use supporting fire on the broadsides to deliver 12TL SMS shots and 3 TL rail shots (I can only imagine how much more sickening this would have been if I were using the High Yield Missile pods). With supporting fire they can protect another unit.
What are your thoughts on using HYMP broadsides with the system that boosts overwatch to BS2?
Re-read the multitracker info, you can only fire two weapons in the shooting phase sadly.
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ERJAK wrote:
The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 18:47:58
Subject: Re:Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Raw SDF-1 Recruit
Durban-South Africa. Like schwow man!
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Bugger. Well spotted there. Here's hoping for a Helldrake bent FAQ ruling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 20:36:47
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
Canada
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davou wrote:Re-read the multitracker info, you can only fire two weapons in the shooting phase sadly.
Wait... you can't overwatch with both weapons on a suit? That... that sucks.
Hard.
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tgjensen wrote:labmouse42 wrote:Another problem is the abject masculinity of the game. Nearly every character I've read about has the emotional range of a turnip. Hate, Anger, Fear, Loyalty, and Worship. That's about it.
Christ, where do you buy your turnips? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 04:47:41
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Been Around the Block
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DakkaHammer wrote:davou wrote:Re-read the multitracker info, you can only fire two weapons in the shooting phase sadly.
Wait... you can't overwatch with both weapons on a suit? That... that sucks.
Hard.
You should be able to. We have a multitracker that lets us shoot an additional weapon in the shooting phase. Overwatch rule states that "An Overwatch attack is resolved like a normal shooting attack (albeit one resolved in the enemy's Assault phase) and uses all the normal rules for range, line of sight, cover saves and so on."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 12:55:29
Subject: Re:Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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multi track says "A model with a Multi-tracker can fire an additional weapon in each Shooting phase." pg 69. No dice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 13:01:33
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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That sounds like something that should be faq'd don't see why the support system wouldn't work for Overwatch as well :S
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 15:52:30
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
Canada
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hokieseas wrote:You should be able to. We have a multitracker that lets us shoot an additional weapon in the shooting phase. Overwatch rule states that "An Overwatch attack is resolved like a normal shooting attack (albeit one resolved in the enemy's Assault phase) and uses all the normal rules for range, line of sight, cover saves and so on."
It's that "in the assault phase" thing. I looked up that same passage, but it seems pretty clear that shooting phase just means shooting phase.
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tgjensen wrote:labmouse42 wrote:Another problem is the abject masculinity of the game. Nearly every character I've read about has the emotional range of a turnip. Hate, Anger, Fear, Loyalty, and Worship. That's about it.
Christ, where do you buy your turnips? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 16:11:16
Subject: Broadsides as Fireline defence.
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Been Around the Block
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DakkaHammer wrote:hokieseas wrote:You should be able to. We have a multitracker that lets us shoot an additional weapon in the shooting phase. Overwatch rule states that "An Overwatch attack is resolved like a normal shooting attack (albeit one resolved in the enemy's Assault phase) and uses all the normal rules for range, line of sight, cover saves and so on."
It's that "in the assault phase" thing. I looked up that same passage, but it seems pretty clear that shooting phase just means shooting phase.
I did go back and check the wording of the multi tracker in the old codex which said allows a battlesuit to fire two weapon systems in the same turn. Yeah, I can see it now how significant the difference between turn and phase is between the two wordings.
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