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 Davylove21 wrote:
I opted for a refund because it's just been too long for me personally - I have no doubt that I would have received my Hellscape, just doubts about how soon. 100% refund received and I wish the best of luck to them going forward.

Davy,

After your initial 10% report, how easy was it getting the full refund?

I'll probably still keep my pledge as I really like the boards and the KS cost compared to retail is really nice, but I had to laugh when I looked at the Kickstarter and I saw we finished this up in December!

 Pete Melvin wrote:
Well, I'm out. Heres my posted comment to the KS:

I have requested a refund.

Frankly, I am fed up with the constant delays, the poor communication and the half-truths and sometimes outright lies. I have no confidence that G&G will get these to us in any kind of sensible time period or that the final product will reflect what they have promised at the outset of this project.

From the main project page: "ALL BOARDS COME BASED PAINTED AS IN THE PICTURES!!"
Thats clearly NOT the case with thee 28mm Dropzone boards.
We were promised an update every friday. Surprise surprise thats dropped off their radar.
Boards are promised to be delivered over and over again and nothing turns up.
People havent gotten their promised scenery.
Constant messages of "we're in the black". We don't CARE. We just want our boards. (or did)

I was stocked for these boards a year ago, now this whole thing just leaves a bad taste in the mouth. I don't think that these are total vapourware, I would guess some people might see these before the end of the year but Im tired of it all.
Good luck to all who remain, I hope you get your boards soon and they are to your liking. I wouldnt hold your breath though

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And they've got back to me to expect my refund within 48 hours. Only quick thing they've done all fething kickstarter.

Pete,

Any specific reason you decided to drop now versus before? Just a culmination of things I assume?

I saw your post further up and am in the same boat as you. I am pledged for a few board and some extras, but really just want the anima board at this point.

I'm assuming though you did not have a Hawk Board? (I see you dropped right before they posted the ship update) Since they apparently just shipped, I doubt I can get the refund now. Guess I'll just look to flip those for something in between the pledge and retail price.

 Pete Melvin wrote:
It was just the whole thing. Its been building and building and when I saw the state of the 28mm city boards, the constant lies, the "hey we're shipping!" with no evidence to back it up.
I've lost interest in the boards as well. The projects they were intended to be used for have been finished or have fallen by the wayside 9 months after they were supposed to be in our hands. The whole "allow 5-25 days to deliver" broke the back of it.
"We've kept you waiting for no discernable reason, now wait some more!"
Feth them.

No I didnt have the Hawk board. I hope people get them at some point, I've just lost interest in what now looks to be a shoddy product. Ill give them this, the Anima board looks good. The city ones do NOT reflect what they made them out to be.

Thanks Pete. Yeah, I get that. And agreed, the Hawk board looks nothing like the mock-ups, a reason I will look to move it on.

I also just realized I messaged them a month ago asking some questions and never got a reply back. Seems like the only way to get their attention is through the comments section! Not sure if I can get a refund at this point, but we shall see!

Sorry to hear about the missed projects. We've all been through a bit of ride!

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
Quick update to say one of my two city boards arrived today...
No idea why only one.

Pretty good, feels cheaper and lighter than GWs.
Pretty good detail.

No grey paint, kinda brown grey plastic.
Roads are sprayed on and then white lines sprayed... Very basic.
Should be able to paint up and weather super quick.
Wish they just sold unpainted and cheaper!

1/4 ... Still waiting on 3 boards.

Panic...

Panic,

Good news! Quick questions if you don't mind.

How is the clip assembly and table hangover? Easier to put together than the RoB? Also, does it need a proper 6x4 table underneath or does the board support its own weight pretty well for a smaller table.

Thanks in advance. Hopefully we start seeing them state side soon...Did they ship them from China all along then?

 Maccwar wrote:
I got my boards - woo!

The clips are pretty sturdy. Having to assemble the board face down and then flip it over for play is very cumbersome and a bit nerve wracking but seemed to work okay.

The boards cope well with the 6" overhang on each of the long edges of my table - better than the GW RoB. The clips don't ping off every time someone leans of the board.

The grey areas are smoother than I had expected and my terrain moves around at the slightest touch. Once the release agent is removed and I have a layer of paint on there hopefully the surface will be a bit more grippy.

More photos here:-

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bhqzy38oo940hg3/AADPXM-I9hl4V7Oz77t3X7r2a?dl=0

Maccwar,

Thanks for the update!

While it definitely is annoying about the lack of paint, I'm more disappointed about the lack of a carrying case. I was going to sell my RoB, but may just keep it for the case now!

A few questions if you don't mind.

You say a 6" overhang is safe, but think it could work for a foot overhang on a 4x4 table? To the clips, can you actually get it to flip without it coming apart? I've read a 4x4 is doable with one person, but a 6x4 needs two and sometimes it comes apart.

Also, would you mind confirming how thick the tiles are? Thanks in advance!

Hopefully they show up in the US soon!

@ Maccwar,

Disregard my previous request. I was surprised by its arrival today - East Coast US!

As someone who owns the RoB and comparing it directly, it is better, but still has some issues.

Obviously price at the KS is a massive advantage and I'm thankful that mine does not come with any major defects, the roads are painted pretty clean, and I don't have much of the plastic finish others have talked about. The overhang also works really nice, with even a 12in overhang not nearly as shaky as an RoB at just a few inches.

On the other hand, it is not nearly as easy to flip the thing over as advertised. It can be a dangerous one person job if you have no disregard for your table and pull/flip it long ways, but even with two people, it feels like it is going to break apart at any moment. I found flipping it long ways is better as you can support both clip points. Although compared to the RoB, assembly is easier, but different as you have to flip it. It is impossible to assemble upwards. As an aside, I had not put my RoB together for a while and I still cannot believe how little R&D GW did for the assembly process. The clips, sparseness of placement, and board flimsiness are terrible.

For me personally though, I don't care about the lack of paint (even though the advertising was deceitful) but I am really bemoaning the lack of any kind of carrying/storage case. For anyone interested, these boards fill about 8/10 of a GW case, so the boards would fumble around a bit.

If anything, this has just convinced me that a proper 6x4+ table is a necessity to not have to worry about the assembly or overhang problems of all boards on the market. Still one balance point no one can seem to get right.

Not a bad board at all, but the Anime and Anima look to have a more finished looked. These would be solid alternatives for a RoB (which is apparently increasing) at retail, but G&G has to get a carrying case and come straight on the whole painted advertising fiasco for the Hawks.

Lastly, if anyone has a Hellscape and would like to swap for a Hawk Board - PM me. Alternatively, I will sell the HAWK at KS price. Let's talk about shipping though.

 judgedoug wrote:
Anima Boards have been arriving this week, people posting comments on the KS page and photos
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153550615915281&set=a.10150160765245281.339190.683445280&type=1&theater

Judge, how's your massive Terminator board going?

3x + Fields of War pledger here, so lots of investment in this KS. As for the Anima, it arrived today!

While I like the board, painting is incredibly inconsistent. Although on Judge's link, the color inconsistencies look consistent...which also supports comments on the KS page. So while nice, not nearly as finished as promotion pictures.

Boards are far more finished than the Hawk, but as mentioned above, the paint job is bizarre. You can easily see where the sponge was blotted, looking like polka dots with a variety of shades. The boards themselves are also not consistent, with ample spillage over the edges and even excess onto the underside. Obviously has no bearing on usability, but a sign of a professional touch. There was also a total oversight on the straight board tile because it has no black indents to mark off a road edge of a corresponding tile.

End of the day, I will make some improvements and it will serve as nice basis for both a fantasy or grimdark cityscape. Being more of a surrounding and terrain gamer, I personally have a lot of fantasy stuff I'm very excited to set up on it.

So worth the $100? Absolutely. But even as being the last person to complain about my toy soldiers, I do not appreciate when a company is not transparent or accurately representing their products. They also are not even replying to respectful PMs on KS, so while I know they've taken abuse, they have totally circled the wagons.

Now we wait for the other boards! Pictures below.