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yeah,
I'm interested in both products.

SW boards look very detailed and G&G look more basic.
I think G&G boards are more ideal for converting your own tiles.

G&G's flat boards with engraved detail allows easier positioning of terrain.
SW's bumpy details will cause a few issues with placing minis and the bumps will get in the way of placing flat bottomed terrain.

Panic...

yeah,
I was impressed by G&Gs attention to what the community was saying first time round and was disappointed that it didn't work out.
I'm definently onboard for round two.

G&G 2'x2' boards compatability with GW (and Secret Weapon) will make the new boards even better and not isolate them from customers that already have boards.

Panic...

Yeah,
Photos or it didn't happen!?

Panic...

yeah,
I'm starting to think that you have enough demand!
Why give kickstarter their 10% ?

Panic.

Yeah,
I was a backer of the first games and gear battle board kickstarter and was dismayed that people didn't back it!

With the success of their excellent brushes kickstarter, all delivered on time, Games ands Gears now have an proven track record.
I can't wait to get involved in this one.

Panic...

yeah,

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I will agree, the boards looked quite good quality wise, but, seeing them in person the dropzone commander board has ideal road depth for 15mm, for 28mm it needs to be more down.

I think exaggerated 40k model sizes/scales have spoiled us and the fact that our models are standing on thick bases confuses us!...
How deep do you want that curb? in reality most curbs are about ankle deep?

I accept this board was planned around 15mm but I plan to repaint and remove all road markings anyway, in fact I plan to dremel the feth out of my G&G board when I get it, and make it look like it's been around for 10,000+ years, the prepaint is merely an early base coat in my eyes!

Panic...

yeah,

GamesNGears wrote:
... Hoping with the success of this Kickstarter, we will venture to do 3by3 for 2014 were you can purchase it directly. So we very much hope for the success of this kickstarter to be a positive engine/catalyst for great things to come!

Interesting!
3'x3' how many games use 3x3? I can only think of star wars x-wing..

Also how would this work?
1x 3'x3' tile?
4x 1.5'x1.5' tiles
9x 1'x1' tiles

Panic...

yeah,
I wasn't being negative!
I'm planning on buying a G&G board.

During the previous campaign I was also very interested in the possibility of a death star texture!

Panic...

yeah,
Isn't the big complaint about GW's ROBB that you can't move the hills?
Now this one is too flat!

Seems you can't please some people...

Panic...

yeah,

 Alfndrate wrote:
...I guess my image of a hellscape is a blighted piece of earth with 'unpredictable' levels of terrain. Crags of ground coming out of the earth, cracked ground, rifts opening, etc...

I think the idea is you make/buy terrain to create your own version of hell.. this is just the base/board.

 Alfndrate wrote:
...
...Hell, I would have liked the concept better if it was a cracked dry lake look:

Spoiler:

I think your in luck as i beileve they already have that designed. from the first KS.. the cracked earth scheme.

Panic...

yeah,
I kinda like the honesty of showing tiles like you'll receive.
They could of course also (maybe during the KS) show some propainted tiles.

Panic...

yeah,

Games & Gears wrote:
++Update Games & Gears Battle Board Kickstarter++

++Launch Date: 9th of November!!!++

++KS rewards to be revealed soon++

++Spread the word and let everyone know, lets make this an epic success. Thanks again for your patience, like you we cannot wait!!++
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Panic...

Yeah,
I originally backed for a single 6x4...
But I want a 28mm drop zone city and a sci if board.
Ideally I want a double set but they are all gone!!!

In the end these early birds are such a good deal I grabbed a x3
I will downgrade if I see a double pledge open up.
Worst case scenario I'll receiving 3 boards..

So excited...
My 28mm board is getting a 40k wartorn dremel treatment.
And I'm planning on making my sci-if board a tau city!

May 2014 seems so far away!!!

Panic...

Yeah,

 Azazelx wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

Have to admit this isn't my favorite, though... that circular feature in the lower left is one that we rarely use with the card tiles, as it's hard to make it look natural in a cityscape. I would personally prefer something else to go in the lower left quadrant, that would be more useful.

Looks to be a plaza, which could work well with some small kiosk-type buildings, a stage, maybe some jersey barriers, etc. I'll agree, not as common a sight or quite as useful as more streets, but I can both see it's use, and how it would be annoying when wanting a lot of regular urban streets.

I think the generic streets are better, as RiTides says you don't want a plaza involved in every set up.
Which is what will happen when this is one of your 6 tiles.

I hope the circle plaza area doesn't make it to the 28mm (40k) version,
The tile is great except for that!

I think if it was a square design the problem wouldn't exist as it could be the location for a important building..


Panic...

yeah,
Ha sorry!

I was just adding that the big circle will be in one of the 6 areas of the board for every game!

I should point out that this Big o Circle is not a deal breaker!!
I can just place a big o building over it if I don't wanna look at it.
I still want want want one of these boards.

I'm actually starting to come around to the idea! Any of these would look excellent at the center.

Panic...

yeah,
I'm not sure if they will have extra boards for 28mm as they have shown the 6 you get for your pledge.
Although an alternative straight and/or a road dead end and/or a L-shape turn would be amazing and get me to up my pledge.

I'm excited to see the final Anime Wars scifi board.

Panic...

yeah,
I'm down for three boards.
Definitely selecting the 28mm city board (amazing!) and the Anime Wars Battle Board (amazing!)
I can not wait to get these.

I have one choice left, but I don't play 10mm games or fantasy...
I do however play daemons, so I'm interested in the concept of the Hellscape Board.

But wtf is going on with these hellscape tiles!!!

Tile 1, 2 & 3
all kinda have a jagged rocks thing going on...
But some of the lines on the ground look like random squiggles, that anyone with a dremel could replicate...
And then some of the rock shape outlines don't join up / complete, so how are we suppose to interpret/paint that?


Tile 4 looks like a complete mess!
Seriously G&G what is going on here? this looks like gak...

.
..
Then we have Tile 5's cad drawing. It is completely Different! and it is Amazeballs!



It looks amazing! can I have 6 Hellscape tiles that look like this please??

Seriously Hellscape 1-4 tiles should be reworked away from the random crappiness and be more like Tile 5 and the original cracked earth tile you showed during the first KS...


Thanks
Panic...

yeah,
I was! Have you all seen the hellscape board 5 - the soul pools?
^_^

The best tile in that set by a long shot!
I vote they make all the hellscapes look like the soul pools!

Panic...

yeah,
Been looking at All 6 boards on facebook.
Any chance of getting straight on flat renders? so we can play around with what all 6 will look like as a table??


They are looking mighty fine!

Panic...

Yeah,
Stunning.
Appears to be fairly basic air brush work.
Will definently love to try and copy this!

Panic....

Yeah,
I agree.
It's the fact that the blanks are the perfect size and can clip onto the existing sets that makes them useful.

Set terrain like aircraft crash sites, fortifications and installations.unique terrain sets.
Chopping up two or three blanks to create trenches or a drop pod massacre.

Panic...

yeah,
Looking at the 28mm urban boards,
I can't see that many layouts being created with the 6 proposed tiles.
I kinda hope the final t-Junction doesn't get unlocked as I'd prefer a second straight or open board.

I think the locked t- junction should be changed to a 90 turn or the straight with laybys...

Panic...

yeah,
Ok
so heres my beef with the current set of 6 urban 28mm tiles.

You can move juctions around a little but I can only see three basic layouts..
pls excuse the crappy photos... paper tiles and iphone.

1) both empty tiles at the top or bottom.
2) both empty tiles at the left or right.
3) both empty tiles split by the straigh tile. (top or bottom)
.

.

If the 'locked' blank tile is swapped for a straight road tile it seems a little better.
This is because the park can go in any of the six spots and the roads go around it...
.

.

But ultimately I think the gaps between the roads create enough space?
Is there a need for a park!

I think 2 straights, 2 tjuctions 1 cross road plus 1 other road. would be better.
to test this out I made a 90deg turn.


IMO This seems to create much more freedom of tile placement...


I like the park tile, but I feel the park should be an optional extra tile. so your not forced to have a park in every Layout
The park creates an area on the board that I think will be hard top place buildings on without looking strange.

Also parks are fairly easy to make.
link to tutorial I made years ago!

If we had 2x straight 2x T-juction 1x cross road plus 1x 90deg turn as standard...
plus a ££ 2 tile urban upgrade pack containing the blank tile & the park tile I'd be all over it!
I could have any of the above setups

Panic...

yeah,
It's very exciting now that we are in the final days!


In my above post I made the mistake of thinking the blank was locked... the last locked board is the second T-junction.
My bad!

G&G Is it possible for you to change the locked T-junction to a 90degree turn? A second T-junction design isn't really needed.

But I can see the problems with a radical changing the of the set this late in the Kickstarter, such as removing the blank and park.
If a backer has a 2x board pledge and wants double 28mm city.. and wants parks.
He would be fairly aggrieved if the parks became available only as purchasable extras.

Maybe you could offer two 28mm city options?
1) The Original Set

2) All Roads




+++
Anyways... I don't have to worry about this anymore!!
I decided the best value for me was to jump up a level to the 4x early bird deal.
2x 28mm urban battle boards
1x anima wars (tau city board planned)
1x hellscape (nurgle garden board planned)


++
Regardless of how G&G sort out the 28mm set - I'm in!

I've got G&G brushes - a KS they delivered on time.
I love the G&G paint rack - a pre-order that was also delivered on time.


2014 is going to be great with all the stuff I pay for this year arriving in the post!!
It's like I've bought lots of little presents for the future me.

I can't wait till May! Exciting times...

Panic...

Mega edits!! sorry...

yeah,
GamesNGears

Thats a pretty cool solution!
It looks much better visually than double T-junctions.
Thanx for listening.

 RiTides wrote:
There was a 3x EB open last night that I almost upped to...

That would have been mine when I upped to 4xEB

Panic...

yeah,
I can see this kickstarter surge at the end and unlock all the stretch goals.
So that won't be an issue.

£62 per board to your door is too good a deal to pass up!

Panic...

yeah,
I have 2x hawk urban boards ordered plus 1xAnime and 1xHellscape (the last in production line?)

But I got so bored waiting I bought the new GW imperial sector.
Which I think I will have painted long before my G&G boards arrive!

Panic...

yeah,
Those brushes were not great, but a pretty good value for money.
And delivered on time.

Delivering on time was to be G&Gs thing!

But;

These boards are running 5-6month late now (due to floods...)

They are late with the photograph backdrops Add ons I bought in their second brush KS

So their KS on time gimmick is tarnished.
The floods we are told ruined all the boards paint jobs, but we've still not seen production photos of the unpainted anime or hellscape boards.
I don't think these have been made yet.
The photo backdrops should have been incredibly easy to get printed while the KS was running and have out the door already.. no excuses.

The worst bit is I encurraged people to buy these boards and the other KSs
Their 'grass roots' campaign.
Like RiTides, I now feel that this has also tarnished my rep too!

Panic...

yeah,
Just seen that they kicked Azazelx out!
Have you told them if you want to stay or not ? ?

This has turned nasty pretty quick! I think a warning could have been issued via PM.
I'd be angry about being booted. It Kinda poisons their well for future projects.


The other thing is I don't understand why everyone started mega complaining about the photos.
It's exactly what I was asking for.
Non professional factory floor photos to show how the products looking right now.

I have to say they are looking good.






Panic...

Yeah,

Bossk_Hogg wrote:
.... In comparison, these look quite flat.

we've been over this ground a few times.
Some will like the bumpy texture and more tiles.
Some will prefer a flat board and less tile lines...

IMO - Its why these are better, easier to set up terrain.

Panic...