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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:47:52
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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Sinewy Scourge
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So if I have a Soul Grinder for example,
1. Could my own units move under it?
2. Can Enemy units move under it?
3. Could the unit under be charged? ( Assuming the front guys are only under the back half of the Soul Grinder, so essentially the front legs of the Soul Grinder has nothing underneath)
4. Could I charge from out of under the Soul Grinder?
5. Does it count as shooting through a unit?
Since the Soul Grinder as no base and the space is enough for models to go under just had this question come up in my mind.
Thanks for helping
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:49:15
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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if you agree to that since it KIND OF makes sense prior to the game, sure
RAW - no, only skimmers allow that not walkers. Least far as i know enemy models can move over your skimmers just cant be within 1inch when theyre done like normal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:49:50
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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No model may be moved *through*. Therefore, no.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:54:51
Subject: Re:Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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The Conquerer
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No, the only models we are allowed to move under are flyers, and you still have to end more than 1" away. And can't go over their base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:56:20
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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There is no explicit rule stating that you cannot move under/between the legs of a big walker which has no base. In practice I don't see anyone do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:57:19
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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Sinewy Scourge
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Ok, that seems fair then, FMCs can have units on their base though.
So shooting a unit behind a soulgrinder still confers a 5+ cover save then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:59:12
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Makutsu wrote:Ok, that seems fair then, FMCs can have units on their base though.
So shooting a unit behind a soulgrinder still confers a 5+ cover save then?
FMCs may not have anything on their base. Where did you find that one?
And yes, as units would be drawing LOS through another unit, a Soul Grinder would grant a 5+ cover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:59:58
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Makutsu wrote:Ok, that seems fair then, FMCs can have units on their base though.
No they can't. You still have to stay 1" away from their base if you're an enemy model, and you can't move over the base of a friendly model either, as specified on pages 21 and 30.
Makutsu wrote:So shooting a unit behind a soulgrinder still confers a 5+ cover save then?
As with shooting a unit obscured by any other unit, yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 18:00:24
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Makutsu wrote:
So shooting a unit behind a soulgrinder still confers a 5+ cover save then?
Yeah, just like any time a model is 25% obscured by another model not in its own unit.
Ok, that seems fair then, FMCs can have units on their base though.
no, you can never have a model on another model's base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 18:08:43
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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Sinewy Scourge
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SoloFalcon1138 wrote: Makutsu wrote:Ok, that seems fair then, FMCs can have units on their base though.
So shooting a unit behind a soulgrinder still confers a 5+ cover save then?
FMCs may not have anything on their base. Where did you find that one?
And yes, as units would be drawing LOS through another unit, a Soul Grinder would grant a 5+ cover.
Hmmm, I swear I saw something about that, but it probably was my imagination... Automatically Appended Next Post: Grey Templar wrote: Makutsu wrote:
So shooting a unit behind a soulgrinder still confers a 5+ cover save then?
Yeah, just like any time a model is 25% obscured by another model not in its own unit.
Ok, that seems fair then, FMCs can have units on their base though.
no, you can never have a model on another model's base.
I thought 25% obscured was only for vehicles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 23:54:20
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Read the section in the BRB titled "Cover Saves" on p18.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 23:56:50
Subject: Moving Under a Walker, charging and enemy units
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Does the 1" from enemy models rule not cover everything from the OP.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/04/14 00:02:27
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