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I faced a DA army this last week and he tore up my Ork speed freaks pretty good. We were playing at 1500 points he had two sets of Terminators and One pod unit. He had some snipers/scouts and a Tank. Your basic Angels of death build. Any advice on how to beat DA deep strike army, I am currently setting up a Mek/swarm.

2 Sets of Killa kans, 2 DeathDreads, 3 big gunz, 2 units of lootas one with 10 the other 5, 2 units of ork boyz 30 in each. 2 big mek as my HQ’s

How do you think that will hold up against the deep strike of the DA army. I am thinking of sitting in base till his deepstrike goes off then swarming his terminators if he lands them behind my line. If not I can move out from there and Declare a waaagh to help get across the table and make up for the loss turn?

Anyway any advice would be good, I included the army list so if you want to really break down the items and point allocation feel free!

Cobra

Take more Boyz.

I currently have 60 boyz in this army, how would suggest I fit more in? I am at the max unit size for the 2 units of boyz I am running.

Cobra

I'd run a third squad. 90 Boyz is nothing to sneeze at and it will help you capture objectives and hold them. I'd aim at outnumbering him as much as I can. And remember the Boyz pack quite a bit of shots, 60 of them. This should eat termies up because you can simply force them to take a ton of armor saves. Assuming the termies try to assault (which I imagine they would), they will have to enter the 18" bubble of your Shootas and you can lay down 180 shots at best, which should kill ~5 termies on average.

So you think i should take shoota boyz over reg boyz?

100%. They shoot well, still do combat well and their OW can be frightening. More versatility is always a good thing.

Ok ill see what i can do, thanks for the advice!

Cobra

On Thursday night I played my regular Ork list at 2000 points against 2 1000 point DA lists.

2 BikerBosses with 10 NobBikerz incl. PB WB with 1 PK.
3x 5 Lootas
Grotsnik with 5 MegaNobz in a Trukk
30 Shootas wih 3 BS Nob with EA PK
30 Sluggas with 3 BS Nob with EA PK

Opp's total had Belial with 5 mace Termies and a Librarian
2x 5 Termies with AssCannon
3 Bikers with melta
The new Speeder with the fancy blast templates
2 squads of 10 marines with an honor guard begin them with salvo banner
And either 2 squads of five marines or a combat squaded 10 with plasma cannon that killed the user the second time he fired snake eyes gets hot armor save lol
10 scouts with snipers/camo cloaks (MVP's)

Long deployment with extra deep deployment zones. The table next to us was the exact same thing except 3000 points apiece Ork vs guard so when we finally started it looked like a 4 x 12' battle with Marines and Guard back-to-back with Ork hordes on each end trying to meet up in the middle.

Anywho, they get first, move up and fire with bikes, and marines, speeder, and non-moving scouts. Almost all fire goes into the Bikes. I take some wounds but only lose 1 model due to him firing from 3 different directions.

My turn move up Bikes, Boyz, and Trukk. Bikes don't shoot a single shot because I want to multi-assault scouts and bikes and maybe speeder, all at least 8" away. My bikes almost stretch across the whole 4'. Lootas trash the speeder and the entire 5 man honor squad with banner thank god! Trukk moves flat out towards nearest unit, his bikes. I roll 4" for assault :(. Very disappointed.

His turn he drops all 3 DA Termie squads right in front of bikers, no scatter due to his bikes and Belial's rules.

All his Termies have twin-linked fire this turn and a librarian casts some 10 man squad with twin-linked as well (prescience?) but first his sniper squad targets the Biker's PB and wound him 3 times. I LoS 1 of 3 and fail all 3 svaes and 3 FNP on both the PB and closet NobBiker :( :( :( then 8 storm Bolters 2 assault cannons and 9 Bolters + BP all open up on my bikers, and they're all twin linked this turn. All 8 AssCannon shots hit BTW. It was painful, esp. without the BP' FNP.

Fast forward and I almost table my opponents minus 3 reg. marines left while I still had 12 Lootas, 30 Shootas, and at least 8 or 9 Sluggas, and 3 MegaNobz without Grotsnik.

To the OP I'd say more boys works against those Termies, 30 took out 5 Mace weilders, Libby, and Belial in 3 rounds with only 1 round of the Nob attacking. I'd (and I did) ditch all the Kanz until our next codex comes out. A flier would do well against you Opps list. Boyz, Lootas, Bikes, DeffKoptas, flier, quantity of fire has always worked well for me taking out 2+ armor. BikerBosses can go with Boyz mobz if you want T6 with PK attacks and Twin-linked precision shots is nice.

Grotsnik is 160 points that'll keep your Sluggas moving up front. fNp works upto Str 7. Pays for himself with just 27 Boyz saved or 15 Cyborked Boyz saved

Lvalx can you look at my new list tell me what you think

i got 90 boyz shoota, I gave up 5 lootas and the 3 Big gunz to get it though


Pipealley that is interesting, I might through it together in the army builder and see what it looks like.


Cobra

Hey thanks for your help, the shoota boys are Amazing, The final build seems to work, for 1500, I am not sure what ill add for a 2k army but I have some ideas! Ill keep you posted.

I got my win against the DA army today!!! thanks for all the help.

Nice man, the ork motto is "Boyz before Toyz". At 1500 points you should have way more than 60 boys.

Yeah well I went 60 boyz, 30 lootas, 4 meganobs, Thraka, truckk, 6 big gunz.