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So this weekend me and my friend decided to test out some of the new terrain we created

Made some forests with some fake turf and fake plants + Moss looking things,

But came across something of a debate when a vehicle ended up exploding with a 6" range and hitting some models within the forest.

Now I voted the models inside could gain a cover save (5+)

but my friend suggested that they would get no cover save from said vehicle exploding

I didn't really mind because I usually don't mind the Cultists dying in swaths, but we decided to mark it down as an "Ask around" commentary question.

What do you all think?

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Probably a hard question to answer with out a few more details.

First off lets look at rule break down. It doesn't say how to treat the attack. Is it a shooting attack? Is it like a barrage and you work out damage from the center of the blast? Unfortunately none of this is clear. I would assume it is treated a normal shooting attack with cover saves allowed.

I would say the most important thing to note is this: Was there LOS from the tank with no obscurity? Was a model within the boundaries of the terrain?

Ultimately, terrain boundaries are important and really answer the question for you. If they were in it, then yes, they get their cover save. If they were NOT in the boundaries but the terrain obscured the tanks LOS with the unit, then they get their cover save.

   
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Forests are area terrain. The only time you would not receive a cover save are against weapons that have the USR "Ignores Cover."

In the specific case of the vehicle explosion, the Damage Table on p74 specifies that all models within the range of the explosion take the hit. LOS is not needed.

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Cover saves work against everything except close combat attacks, weapons with the Ignores Cover special rule, or which otherwise say they ignore cover, like Vector Strike.

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Basically, what ended up happening was my friends Devilfish ended up blowing up on the border of a forest we made and managed to hit 10 cultists within its 6" explosion .

The cultists were in the forest and I believed they would get a cover save because, well, it was a forest. lol And as stated above the area terrain allows for such things..


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In general all saves your model qualifies for work unless a rule says they don't.

"units in cover get a saving throw regardless of what's firing at them." page 18, BRB

The DoM's Spirit Leech does not even have a damage profile nor is it even attack but it does cause wounds and models still get cover saves from it.

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As others have said, area terrain will grant a cover save unelss the particular attack says it ignores cover (Such as Template weapons, Vector Strike Etc...)

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The DoM's Spirit Leech ...nor is it even attack ...

It is an attack, as it can wound and remove models.


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