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2013/04/16 16:23:31
Subject: Re:Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) planning a Kickstarter in June
Well they're pretty much dead at the moment. They only had a few sporadic releases over the least year
Isnt another attributed cause to their downfall is the rapid expansion of their games? They have 3 whole books, though I'm not sure the hyperborean one is as fleshed out as their aegyptus
Their downfall/dead period was due to Chris Fitzpatrick trying to play games with the US and UK government over taxes, aka not paying them. Stems from his time when he was working in the UK for GW.. The IRS caught up with a few years ago and he has been trying get out from underneath it. Chris mentioned it in the New Years 2012 post on the CG forum that he was having tax problems and several of the guys who play the game at my FLGS and know him personally clarified it.
Sounded like he was almost out of the woods and trying to rev things back up.
*edit* just to clarify before GW bashers jump in. GW had zero involvement in this. It was Chris failing to report income to the IRS by saying he was working in the UK and paying taxes to to the UK.
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2013/04/16 17:16:50
Subject: Re:Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) planning a Kickstarter in June
wow that's pretty damning. I heard he had some tax problems but I had no idea he maliciously and willfully didn't pay his taxes. I has assumed it was some kind of clerical error where he dutifully paid his taxes but later found out the amount paid was wrong. The government(s) can be hard nosed and unforgiving about fines and penaltys if they feel payments are in error. when it comes to taxes what the government says goes and individuals have little recourse
back to the op
I hope this kickstarter is successful. hopefully it gets him out of trouble with the feds and the game generates more interest and I hope plastics are involved too.
He tired to be an international accountant and play the two codes off each other and minimize his taxes. When the IRS called him on it several years later, it went south. Didn't sound malicious, just more poorly thought out.
Realize my initial post sounds more accusatory than it should be.
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2013/05/12 03:33:13
Subject: Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) planning a Kickstarter in June. NEW INFO 5/11
Talking with my source close to Crocodile, Fitzpatrick is going to be coming out both guns blazing. Don't expect any of this "here are some concepts" stuff most the KS are doing. He has a large number of greens already done and sounds like they are putting his old stuff to shame.
2013/05/21 15:04:21
Subject: Re:Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) planning a Kickstarter in June. NEW INFO 5/11
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Word on the street is that the old "$30k to $100k per sprue" chestnut is no longer accurate.
Source on this? Not meaning to be flippant, but actually curious as to what sprue costs are supposedly down to these days? I assume that is for production in China?
2013/06/16 05:59:36
Subject: Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
This is interesting... will be there be multiple sculpts for each rank? I can't imagine it would just be one sculpt per rank, but if it's more, that's a lot of sculpts!
The back rank looks to be similar to the single fig I also posted except for the head. I expect there will be multiple head options, though Fitz is ultimate authority on this issue
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2013/06/20 15:50:06
Subject: Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
mrfantastical wrote: Ok please help me out with this. I like the look of the game, I like the demo of the rules, and I like the minatures, but the kickstarter acheivement levels seem weird to me.
Add on starter is $75, but the jump in pledge level with starter is $160. I hope I'm missing something, but that seems like a very high entry point for new players. I have a group of 20 friends that are always looking to jump into new miniature games, and we all talked about this kickstarter, but came up with the same conclusion that it's too high to jump in.
Not trying to troll, but wanted to see if I'm understanding this correctly.
The Skirmish Set, which I believe is what you are referring to, includes the Starter Box ($75), Hero ($9), Peltasts ($35), Rule Book ($35), and S&H. The S&H works out to $6 for a total of $160 and you have access to all the stretch goals as well. Hope this answers your question.
If you want only the starter box, you can pledge for a demi-god at $20 ($15 for fig and $5 for S&H) and add on the necessary items.
2013/06/23 22:22:08
Subject: Re:Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
The Wendigo warband book is now available as PDF. So for $20 you can get pdf's of all three Wargods books While not available for the KS, I will say the Wendigo figures are very cool. Only the Ice Witch was sculpted by Chris and the rest by Ben Siens, but Ben did an awesome job on the figs. Local who plays WG runs them also in a winter themed Beastman Army. They look great on the table.
2013/06/24 01:41:09
Subject: Re:Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
RiTides wrote: Yep, 100K smashed! Some of these further stretches may actually have a very good chance... I could be tempted by the Hydra, too, although I have no idea what I'd do with it
Put it on the shelf next to my "I am Alpharius" T-shirt, perhaps!
Or have it "wearing" the t-shirt!
Looking at a couple of the other "mid-tier" miniature game KS, can expect about 25% more over the next couple days. So we should get Helen and maybe the Hydra. Would like to see what is planned for the Medusa.
2013/06/27 23:31:52
Subject: Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
Mr Morden wrote: I have a soft spot for poor Medusa - no wonder she is grumpy if everyone keeps visitng her island only to chop her head off............I am hoping for a sympathetic treatment (and gorgeous model)
Would be cool if all three sisters were available. But expect the face to match the image on Athena's shield.
2013/06/28 21:02:32
Subject: Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
Well of course, we can't have all this Kickstarter filth continue to clutter up the News & Rumors section.
So we'll see when we get the "official" End of Kickstarter Update. Curious to see how the Automations come out. Don't recall seeing Fitz doing much in the way of mechanical sculpts.
2013/07/27 19:28:06
Subject: Re:Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
The Kickstarter has been over for a few weeks and we are busy as bees here at the Croc HQ -- We just got back from Historicon last week and we are hard at work on the Kickstarter stuff.
As you know, everyone should have sent in their surveys by now, if you haven’t; check the kickstarter program page and there should be a notice for you to fill it out. Please don’t delay; we need this information to produce the miniatures.
Debs is busy compiling all the information from the Kickstarter surveys. This is a huge job because there are a lot of backers and a lot of options. She is slowly working her way through it and as soon as she has got a comprehensive list, we will be contacting you if we need any clarifications or additional information that we may need.
Chris has been sculpting away and is making steady progress on the miniatures. He’s putting the final touches on the Demigods and cutting them into their separate parts to be sent to the mold maker. He has also nearly finished one of the Bronze Automatons… the Bronze Minotaur!
Check out these in progress photos – there are still a few more things to clean up and little details to add, but the Bronze Minotaur is nearly done and stands 2.75 inches tall, so he is going to be an impressive miniature on the battlefield!
Thanks again for all of the support. Tune in next week for another update.
--Chris & Debs Crocodile Games
And pics!
2013/08/13 23:39:41
Subject: Re:Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
It's been a busy couple of weeks here at the Croc HQ. Todd Harris has just completed the first of his sculptures for the kickstarter project, a set of Greek Archers. We have done this pack with universal warriors that work with the following city-states; Sparta, Athens, Corinth and Mycenae. Each unit will have a captain that is specific to the city-state, and the basic warriors will all look like athletic Greek youths, check out the pictures below!
And here's the latest news on production, we have gotten the first batch of master castings of the Demigods, and they look spectacular! Our masters are done by Brian Hitsman at Majestic Mold Making, a long-time veteran of the mold making business, and he has done an amazing job of capturing all of the detail in these complicated models. We're spending the next week getting these masters prepped for their production molds, and then we can start making miniatures!
To give you an idea of how big this job is. we have something like 50 individual molds remaining to produce for the first wave, a huge task but we're making great progress. Watch for more updates as the molds are completed.
As soon as we have all of the production molds finished we are going to be closing the paypal pledging once and for all, so if you have any last minute additions now is the time to add them.
Thats it for now, thanks to everyone for their support, and we'll see you soon in the next update!
The sculpture of the Oracle is close to being finished, if things go we'll I'll be able to show her off in the update this weekend.
The last of the Demigod molds are being pressed this week, and I'll be going out to inspect the master castings for the last 2 (Hecate and Dionysus) on Friday. If those look good we'll be able to start production castings for the Demigods next week. Fingers crossed they came out OK!
Eager to see what the Oracle looks like
2013/11/02 06:41:32
Subject: Re:Crocodile Games (maker of Wargods) Olympus Kickstarter
Greetings backers, we're back again with great news from the Croc HQ! The Demigod miniatures have arrived, they look fantastic, and the Painter Rewards are shipping this week!
If you chose any of the "Painter" rewards (x1 through x8) and did not add any Add-Ons or substitutions, then we should be shipping your miniatures this week. If you paid for Add-Ons or items other than the Demigods included, these rewards will be shipping a little later as we get the other molds completed and castings made.
Debs is hard at work packing and shipping the Painter rewards, and we have photographic proof!
Debs gets the Painter Rewards ready for shipping!
As for the rest of the rewards, we are making great progress on the molds for the Trojans, which are next in line. The last of the Trojan greens are at Majestic Moldmaking now, and we should be getting the master castings back for these in the next week.
New Trojan Greens!
Click the link above to see more of the latest Trojan sculptures, including the Musician and the Swordsman!
Thanks to everyone for their patience with us so far, this is a huge assortment of miniatures, and we're doing our best to get all of these completed as soon as possible.
