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Hello Dakka!

I've been playing Orks and Orcs for almost all of my GW games. I think its time to start building a second 40k army (I have zero drive to build a second WHFB army), when looking to see what army to build my first thoughts are to what models I think look cool, followed by what armys can be allies with the Orks (since I have them already), lastly is to make sure the Codex isn't just a horrible mistake. Luckly my first choice was Necrons, and it fit all three goals I was looking for. There is an upcomming Weekend of 40k I would like to attend, and this is what I was thinking of taking.

Necron Lord: Rez-orb, teserac labyrinth

Necron immortals x10

Night scythe

Necron Warriors x15

Necron Warriors x15

Annihilation barge

Annihilation barge

Doooomsday Ark

Allies:

Ork Warboss: Bike, cyborg, PowerKlaw, bosspole

7x Ork Nobz: bikes, painboy, Cybork, 2x PowerKlaw, waaghbanner, 2x big choppa's. (Counts as troops due to Warboss)

1750

I assume the first question will be, "why only 15 in the warriors units". This is because I read their entry wrong in the Codex. I thought it said you can add more warriors up to 15, not add 15 more. So when I made the list I thought 15 was the cap, I also only bought 30 Warriors. When I look to add more points to the list, I'll up the unit size.

The Ork Allies do two things for me.
1) Add a very tough and speedy hand to hand unit that the Necrons just dont have access to.
2) Chews up some points allowing me to field the army .

I would very much love some feedback on the list. I would also like to hear some suggestions from Necron players. I am just starting the Necron army and any pointers/tips would be very helpful!

I do have a few questions:
1) For Annihilation barges, for the secondary weapon is Gauss or Tesla the better option?
2) How do you all feel about the Doomsday Ark? It "sounds and looks" great. But don't know how it really produces on the table.
3) Wraiths also look great both as models and in their entry. I am thinking this will be the next unit I buy. How are they game wise?
4) I was also thinking about taking a ghost ark, just to sit around and repair the warrior squads, is this a valid tatic, or do they get destroied pretty easily?

Thanks again for the comments!

Blasto

I like it man, the Ork part at least (no idea about 'crons!). Was thinking of doing this myself - just got to finish building my Biker Nobs.

Just remember though, Orks are battle-brothers with Codex: Dread Mob from forgeworld.

 Dakkamite wrote:


Just remember though, Orks are battle-brothers with Codex: Dread Mob from forgeworld.

Could you go in to more detail about this? I have the Ork Forgeworld book, are you refering to the army list in that book?

Blasto wrote:

 Dakkamite wrote:


Just remember though, Orks are battle-brothers with Codex: Dread Mob from forgeworld.

Could you go in to more detail about this? I have the Ork Forgeworld book, are you refering to the army list in that book?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/a/allies.pdf

So you are allowed to use orks + orks

Yeah man, Codex Dread Mob from Imperial Armour 8.

That list is pretty good, but when you combine it with Codex: Orks you get something downright awesome.

Your doomsday ark is a one shot wonder per turn, to get the most out of paying for something your not wanting to ever move once you start the game you should target the toughness unit your opponent has in his army.

Personal I take the gauss for the secondary weapon just because of the glancing rule of the gauss weapons.

Wraiths are very Killy, take 6 and put them with a destroyer lord. They will rip through most things.

I've beaten using a ghost ark for the last few games, and I could take it or leave it at home. I prefer to use the night scythe for transportation and have res orbs with my lords for the resurrection instead.

My two cent for your list would be to drop the tess lab from your overlord and give him scarabs and a warscythe. Get yourself a cryptek, upgrade him to harbinger of the storm. This way you have a melee weapon for tanks and a haywire weapon as well.

Drop your weapons down to units of 10 or 12, and use the remaining points to get a harbinger of despair or a Spyder with some scarabs.

The list looks pretty decent (I think it could be more competitive if that is your goal)
I assume you meant to say that your HQ is an "Overlord" Not a "Lord" because Lords are only taken in Royal Courts which are not stand alone HQ units.

To answer your questions based on my personal experience with Necrons.

1) I bring the Gauss cannon on all 3 of my Annihilation barges. I don't think it's a super critical option but I like having the AP 3 weaponry available to deal with MEQ.

2) I don't like the Doomsday Ark. I always find my self needing to move in order to get a better shot... which completely nerfs its cannon as moving it drops down the str to 7 and shortens its range. For the same amount of points, the Doom Scythe is a better choice.

3) Wraiths are just awesome. Especially with a Destroyer Lord. I can see your Nob Bikers/Warboss working along side a unit of 6 to create a truly powerful and mobile assault based army.

4) If you plan on having huge foot slogging warrior squads, then a Ghost Ark is a good option. I personally opt for the small warrior squads in Night Scythes but that's just because I find it works better in a competitive setting.

Thank you Ravix and Anubi_gate for the Necron Tips. Doing some Math and some retooling at the moment to adjust the list a bit.

1) Do you give the Destroyer Lord anything? or pretty much just take him Stock? (sadly just noticed wraiths do not rez)

2) I'm thinking about cutting the 2x 15 Warriors in to 3x10 for more scoring units and division of fire.

3) I'm going to try out the Doomsday Ark, as I've already bought and built the model .

4) If points get tight, Do you think the Ork BIkers, or Destroyer Lord and Wraiths would be the better of the two options?


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Ok, up dated the list, sadly it has a lack of Orks but I can move past that .

145: Overlord w/Warscythe, Mindshackel scarbs, Resurrection orb
025: Cryptek Harbringer of the Storm w/Voltaic Staff
030: Cryptek Harbringer of Despair w/Abyssal staff

125: Destroyer Lord
210: Canoptek Wraiths x6

095: Deathmarks
100: Night Scythe (flying transport)

170: Necron Immortals x10 Gauss Blasters
100: Night Scythe

130: Necron Warriors x10
130: Necron Warriors x10
130: Necron Warriors x10

090: Annihilation Barge
090: Annihilation Barge

175: Doomsday Ark

1745 Total,

Blasto wrote:
Thank you Ravix and Anubi_gate for the Necron Tips. Doing some Math and some retooling at the moment to adjust the list a bit.

1) Do you give the Destroyer Lord anything? or pretty much just take him Stock? (sadly just noticed wraiths do not rez)

2) I'm thinking about cutting the 2x 15 Warriors in to 3x10 for more scoring units and division of fire.

3) I'm going to try out the Doomsday Ark, as I've already bought and built the model .

4) If points get tight, Do you think the Ork BIkers, or Destroyer Lord and Wraiths would be the better of the two options?

1) Absolutely. Give him Mind Shackle Scarabs and Sempiternal Weave (2+ save). Also, let him keep the War Scythe.

2) More scoring units is always good.

3) I don't blame you.

4) That is a tough call. Both are good units. I might lean more towards the Bikers because they can score. I would probably drop the unit size to 5 if it allowed you to fit the wraiths. I would completely swap out the Overlord for the Destroyer Lord in your list.

Drop a warrior squad down to 6 and use the points to get an lord with a res orb for one of the other troop choices