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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0011/09/18 05:54:48
Subject: Kill team lists
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Stalwart Tribune
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I'm going to try out kill teams soon and here are some possible lists I came up with:
Chaos marines:
-6x chaos marines 110pts
auto cannon, sergeant, w/power sword, melta bombs and combi flamer
-5x chaos marines 90pts
missile launcher, flamer
Dark Eldar:
-10x trueborn 200pts
7x shardcarbines, 2x splinter cannons, dracon w/power weapon and ghostplate armour
Space wolves:
-Lone wolf 35pts
mark of the wulfen
- 10x Grey Hunters
mark of the wulfen, flamer, melta
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/22 14:53:20
Subject: Kill team lists
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Mindless Servitor
Clarksville, Tn
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So what is the max points you can take for one kill team?
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6000 Pts of Ultramarines
3500 Pts of Imperial Guard
4000 Pts of Necrons
1500 Pts Of Eldar
Still got to build my Tyranids |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/22 15:12:52
Subject: Kill team lists
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Stalwart Tribune
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200pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/23 13:14:18
Subject: Kill team lists
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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The chaos marines can not take two decent weapons unit they are 10 strong; and only then can they take a heavy weapon. They are not fearless and could possibly run.
Chosen can take more weapons but the basic cost the the unit is higher - but you do get another attack on the basic profile.
An elite unit may be better to get the fearless and the general better buff than the basic marks offer. Plague marines with double plasma and a combi-plasma on the champion spring to mind.
MoN or MoS + IoE raptors could be worth a punt, double melta + combi-flamer/melta and max out the unit. You get the bonus of them causing fear and hammer of wrath attacks to get the first strike in. You could replace raptors with bikes in the last sentence but you would be up against it if the emeny has a building to climb up into.
Not sure about the other two lists; I don;t play these armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/23 17:40:11
Subject: Re:Kill team lists
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Not to familiar with kill team, any special rules so I could maybe understand a little better?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/23 18:27:32
Subject: Kill team lists
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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Not sure how rules work but 5 man purgation squad with psycannons. 200 points for 5
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 01:20:03
Subject: Re:Kill team lists
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Regular Dakkanaut
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tankboy145 wrote:Not too familiar with kill team, any special rules so I could maybe understand a little better?
Hi, yeah, GW recently published a 6th ed version, for use in a special event, but it's suitable for anyone to play:
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2860630a_40K_Kill_Team_Pack_2013_(6).pdf
A Kill Team is 200 pts of 0-1 Elite, 0-1 Fast, 0-2 Troops, no reserve units (i.e. no flyers), and a few special rules.
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One special rule is "every man for himself", meaning each figure is its own unit.
Thus, things like Fearless or Space Marine's Combat Tactics play out differently.
Leadership is still important, as after 50% of your Kill Team is down, you have to take "Break Tests" to stay in the game.
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So with that in mind, I agree there's some obvious top contenders, there's some armies that really benefit here.
Space Wolves Grey Hunters - point for point one of the best Troop choices, then give them some special weapons
^in other words, just like what the original post suggested, best value^
CSM Plague Marines - much more expensive, but very tough to kill, and give them some special weapons
^also low-cost CSM like what the original post suggested, good stuff^
Any Terminators - SM, CSM, Grey Knights, Terminator armour is a big benefit
Ork Horde - just get as many Orks on the table as possible, swarm the opponent
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Then there's some I'm not sure about, but really worth considering:
Doom of Malan'tai with Genestealers Termagants - this might be the Kill Team killer combo right here
EDIT - I just re-read the rules and found Infiltrate and Scout cannot be used in these GW Kill Team rules.
Walkers - a Dreadnought (Elite, after all) might be more effective at the 200 pt level, not sure
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/04/24 06:55:02
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 05:46:52
Subject: Kill team lists
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Stalwart Tribune
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I ended up playing with the csm list but I altered it to be legak so it was 10 nurgle marines w/ sergeant w/ melta bombs and 5 marines w/cc bp but I realize I ilegally used an autocannon, a missile launcher AND a plasma but its ok, I have the codex now lol. I was up against 5 death company w/jump packs. 2 plasma pistols and a flamer pistol, I lost but there was just one death company model alive at the end and none of mine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 06:11:40
Subject: Kill team lists
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Disguised Speculo
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I'm just wondering how certain unit-wide abilities work in this game?
Say I add a Painboy to a unit of Nobs. Which, if any, of the Nobs get Feel No Pain from the Painboy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 06:16:09
Subject: Kill team lists
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Squishy Squig
Enid, Oklahoma
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16 shoota boyz
2 big shoota boyz
2 pk nobs
Any special rules for unit upgrades? if not that list above would tear into some things
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 06:39:07
Subject: Kill team lists
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dakkamite wrote:I'm just wondering how certain unit-wide abilities work in this game?
Say I add a Painboy to a unit of Nobs. Which, if any, of the Nobs get Feel No Pain from the Painboy?
Hehe, bro, it's a good question, in fact they specifically cite Painboyz as an example. From the Unit Upgrades and Special Rules section:
Unit Upgrades and Special Rules: If your character has or buys
an upgrade (eg a Painboyz’ Dok’s Tools, if a Striking Scorpion Exarch
buys Stalker or an Incubi Klaivex buys Onslaught), only the character
themselves benefi ts from the rule, and not the rest of the squad. If a
whole squad has or buys an upgrade that gives them all a special rule
(eg Psybolt Amuunition), they all receive it. If your squad special
rule requires you to roll on a chart and apply the result (eg- Wyches
Combat Drugs), simply roll once and apply the result to the whole unit.
I asked the same thing myself and the answer seems to be, only the Painboy'd get FNP.
I also believe the same applies to things like Chaos Icons. Seriously, I was wondering, too.
There's also another rule, you CAN choose up to 3 figures to be "Specialists":
Specialists
You may pick up to three individual models in your force as being “Specialists” that benefit from one of a number of
special rules. These specialists and the rules they have must be declared on your army list, as should which model
represents them. You may only give one of the following rules to any one Specialist and all specialists in your force
must pick a different one (eg – you may not have two Specialists who chose the Tank Hunters rule).
The Special Rules they may pick from are-
Adamateum Will, Armourbane, Blind, Counter Attack, Crusader, Eternal Warrior, Fear, Fearless, Feel No Pain,
Fleet, Fleshbane, Furious Charge, Hammer of Wrath, Hatred, Hit and Run, It Will Not Die, Monster Hunter, Move
Through Cover, Night Vision, Preferred Enemy (Everything!), Rage, Rampage, Relentless, Shred, Shrouded, Skilled
Rider, Stealth, Strikedown, Stubborn, Tank Hunter.
So, buying Dok's Tools doesn't give everyone FNP, but you can choose it for free for 1 figure.
There are Victory Points associated with taking down a Specialist, though, so there is a trade-off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 06:53:09
Subject: Re:Kill team lists
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Dark Angels:
Land Speeder Support squadron 2x with Heavy Flamers
Dreadnought, just with what he comes with
Give the Dread rampage (he'll always be outnumbered in CC)
Give one speeder skilled rider and the other stealth, each will always have a 4+ cover, increasing to 3+ when boosting
be TFG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 06:53:45
Subject: Kill team lists
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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No heavy support? :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 06:58:45
Subject: Kill team lists
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Sorry, no Heavy, BUT you can take dedicated transports.
So let's say you're an Ork, and want a Battlewagon.
You don't buy it from the Heavy slot. Instead, you buy Nobz from Elite, and pick up da wagon as their transport.
Cunning, isn't it? I can see a few clever lists with this trick in mind, and I bet you can too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 07:18:47
Subject: Re:Kill team lists
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Thanks for the link. I'm going to try to get some of my friends together to do a bunch of Kill Teams now!
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~Blessings.
2000pts
2000pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 07:22:21
Subject: Kill team lists
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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Haha yes I see it now. I can imagine some quite nasty inquisition in Chimeras.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 21:19:24
Subject: Kill team lists
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Stalwart Tribune
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Next time I might try something like this: -11x Cultists 70pts 10 rifles, heavy stubber - 5x Chosen 130pts autocannon, plasma gun, mark of nurgle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 02:29:48
Subject: Re:Kill team lists
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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bocatt wrote:Dark Angels:
Land Speeder Support squadron 2x with Heavy Flamers
Dreadnought, just with what he comes with
Give the Dread rampage (he'll always be outnumbered in CC)
Give one speeder skilled rider and the other stealth, each will always have a 4+ cover, increasing to 3+ when boosting
be TFG
Each model is treated as it's own unit. I don't think stealth will confer.
Same as above the Dread will charge a single model.
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