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If the Riptide battlesuit uses its Nova charge to Boost (4D6 Thrust Move in the assault phase), do any Shielded Missile Drones taken by the Riptide also benefit? What about independent characters with jetpacks?

Probably a question for the FAQ... RAW, no they wouldn't, but I don't imagine this is intended.

I don't think they imagined the Riptide with a commander attached. They also seem to have neglected thinking of the Riptide as a character as well.

RAW, only the Riptide gets the extra thrust move.

Neither do.

It's not the first or last time a model in a unit gets something that the other models don't.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Neither do.

It's not the first or last time a model in a unit gets something that the other models don't.

I completely get that independent characters would be very unlikely to get the bonus.
The missile drones I think are a slightly different matter. The Riptide takes the drones as a kind of wargear or escort, which only the Riptide can take and he's usually a unit of 1 without that.

But anyway. I knew what the RAW would be. I just thought I'd post the question here for FAQ compilation.

Thing is though that the FAQ has said that IC's joining a squad (which the riptide would be if it had drones since it consists of more than one model) are treated not as ICs but as squad members.

And since other units that join a squad and use there XD6 inch Jump pack movements (like Farsight) and grant it to the other squad members, I'd say that all members of the squad get to use the special rule.

Interesting question. I thought ICs can't join MCs?

I don't have the book in front of me, but the real question would be is why are you taking the drones

(and I'd bet since the drones don't have Nova Reactors, they slow the big guy down. You can talk wolf pups for Space Wolf ICs, but they don't speed up the char._

if the MC has drones though it becomes a squad doesn't it? meaning that shadowsun can join it?

 dbsamurai wrote:
if the MC has drones though it becomes a squad doesn't it? meaning that shadowsun can join it?

Depends how it's worded (I don't have my dex with me). If it's like Space Pups, the wolves you buy are considered wargear and not a squad for the "joining" type stuff.

Most MCs are units that consist of only 1 model.
Drones bought as upgrades are members of the unit for all purposes.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/518912.page

That's just gross. So yea, technically you could... 2+ cover save Riptide?! XD So dumb. Wonder if that'll get FAQ'd? Does it need to be?

 TheKbob wrote:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/518912.page

That's just gross. So yea, technically you could... 2+ cover save Riptide?! XD So dumb. Wonder if that'll get FAQ'd? Does it need to be?

There is no need for a FAQ as it's very clear what you can and can not do. Now they could errata or amend that MCs cannot be joined by ICs, or they could do the same but specifically apply it to Shadowsun or the Riptide. Doing the former needlessly nerfs other armies but would be slightly easier to hide under a guise of "this is what we actually meant", while doing the latter would be one of the most arbitrary and blatant changes to the "power curve" of an army I've seen and would flat out be admitting that they screwed up the balance of a unit...which GW seems to hate to do.

Hasn't been FAQ'd for the tyranids since the start of 6th, and primes have been hanging out with carnifex broods for ages now.

With that said i fail to see how a model other than the Riptide himself can gain any benefit from the nova reactor since all the effects listed specifically say they affect "the Riptide Shas'vre" not the unit.

So if you use the thrust boost you'll have two values for the separate parts of the unit the only restriction being that in the end coherency must be kept, so yea having drones or a joined IC limits the Riptide's ability to boost effectively.

 TheKbob wrote:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/518912.page

That's just gross. So yea, technically you could... 2+ cover save Riptide?! XD So dumb. Wonder if that'll get FAQ'd? Does it need to be?

Yea, that cheese was something I was SO happy to read. It's been far too long. I have a list specifically that uses Shadowsun with a command link drone and a riptide with ONE drone and a stim injector to create a 5 unit deathball squad that has a 4+ cover save in open ground and a 2+ save in cover. And can reroll all the gets hot rolls from the nova charged burst cannon, and can FnP any Nova Reactor explosions. Which means you can nova with impunity and draw the fire from EVERYTHING.

Meanwhile the rest of my army is killing you.

It's like Draigo on steroids...sort of..

 dbsamurai wrote:


Yea, that cheese was something I was SO happy to read. It's been far too long. I have a list specifically that uses Shadowsun with a command link drone and a riptide with ONE drone and a stim injector to create a 5 unit deathball squad that has a 4+ cover save in open ground and a 2+ save in cover. And can reroll all the gets hot rolls from the nova charged burst cannon, and can FnP any Nova Reactor explosions. Which means you can nova with impunity and draw the fire from EVERYTHING.

Meanwhile the rest of my army is killing you.

It's like Draigo on steroids...sort of..

I can see myself doing this...