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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/23 20:32:48
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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So the idea behind this list was to try and fit in some cool units and models, fit the fluff of Blood Angels to some extent, and be remotely competitive. I play in a friendly environment but we are all still fairly competitive.
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Librarian - 100
ELITE
Furioso Dread (frag cannon, H. flamer) - 135
Drop pod - 35
Sternguard (x5, 5x combi-melta) - 150
Drop pod - 35
Priest (x2, 1x jump pack) - 125
TROOPS
Assault Squad (x10, 2x meltagun, melta bombs) - 215
Assault Squad (x10, 2x meltagun) - 210
Scout Squad (x5, 5x sniper) - 75
Death Co (x10, 2x sword, 1x axe, 7x bolter) - 245
Drop pod - 35
FAST
Attack Bikes (x3, 3x multi-melta) - 150
HEAVY
Storm Raven ( mm/ ac) - 200
Vindicator - 145
Vindicator - 145
= 2000
The libby will go with the sternguard with the non-jump pack priest. The priest with the jump pack hangs around with the assault squads. I've then got the attack bikes to pop more armour and heavy hitters, and the vindicators can take on hordes and elite infantry. the scout squad are for backfield objectives. Storm Raven as a gunship.
Any thoughts and suggestions to refine this list? I know death co can be a trap, but I want to include at least one fluffy unit, and if the fragnought and sternguard can clean up a bit for the death co to come in and reach assault it will hopefully be worthwhile. I didn't want to include tanks but I think the vindicators are needed! I'm also thinking about the librarians powers, martel here has suggested shield so it can be used on the turn they drop in, so I'm going to flick through the codex to see a decent second power. I like blood lance but going to take a look.
Thanks in advance for any advice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/23 20:43:54
Subject: Re:Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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I think you need one more scoring unit at 2000pts. Maybe drop the bikes for a tac squad?
I have a similar BA list (mostly still unpainted an it's killing me  ) and I've had mixed results with the vindi's. I feel like they are too short ranged to really support the rest of your fast moving units. I've had better luck with two preds or two BAAL preds but that probably depends in your local meta (mine appears to be completely ass backwards from everyone else's).
Over all it looks like a fun fluffy list. If you ever want to try something different and can find the points, maybe try dropping the libby for Tycho and attach him to the Sternguard in the DP. That's been my favorite BA unit in 6th so far.
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Edit: I just googled ablutions and apparently it does not including dropping a duece. I should have looked it up early sorry for any confusion. - Baldsmug
Psiensis on the "good old days":
"Kids these days...
... I invented the 6th Ed meta back in 3rd ed.
Wait, what were we talking about again? Did I ever tell you about the time I gave you five bees for a quarter? That's what you'd say in those days, "give me five bees for a quarter", is what you'd say in those days. And you'd go down to the D&D shop, with an onion in your belt, 'cause that was the style of the time. So there I was in the D&D shop..." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/23 21:14:51
Subject: Re:Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Scoring unit s are a concern.
I normally play guard, and love the demolisher cannon. Otherwise I wanted plasma cannon devs but couldn't fit them in. The range is an issue, but otherwise I don't have much that can take on terminators which are heavy in my meta...?
Ill look into Tycho!
Thanks for the helpful comments! Nice to hear the list looks fun and fluffy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/23 23:57:08
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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In my experience, vindis don't work well with assault troops. That little issue of hitting your own guys.
Under no circumstances drop the MM attack bikes. If you have get rid of something, drop the DC and get troops that actually score. You're not dropping enough to keep the DC from being shot to death anyway. Two ASM squads aren't enough heat, either at 2K.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 06:46:44
Subject: Re:Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Ok so I could swap the death company for a tactical squad with plasma if I wanted more scoring, still drop them in the pod. That would give me another 50 points to play with.
What would you suggest for a terminator heavy meta in this list? That's what the vindis are mainly for, otherwise I can't fit in plasma devs which I like. What about the rest of the list, decent and fun or need to revamp?
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 08:01:10
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Keep the bikes, but I'd say drop the vindicators and maybe take (baal) predator or two.
I agree, you should have one more scoring unit so maybe tac squad in rhino? As much as I like DC, they take a lot of points... But if you want to make this a fluffy list, either SG or DC is almost a 'musthave'-unit.
Those points for tac squad could be paid if you remove vindicators and scouts maybe? And if you have extra points, switch power axe to TH for anti-tank
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/04/24 08:13:45
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 17:44:33
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
Switzerland
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A drop list at 2k with only one furioso? HERESY!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 17:48:33
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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No, that's legitimate. I'd never go more than two fragnoughts, because you might not have enough targets. And forget blood talons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 17:50:31
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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^I see now why you call yourself Comedian...
But I agree with that. Dreadnoughts are always nice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 18:02:51
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Not always. I've faced lists with 25 fire dragons. Not so nice against that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 18:11:58
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Touché
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 18:19:49
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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It's a tired record at this point, but TAC BA lists are very hard to come up with. And sort of don't exist, imo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 16:37:08
Subject: Re:Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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I'd love a second dread. But unfortunately I can't fit in a furioso and the av12 death co puts me off. Maybe coming from a storm raven straight to assault?
I also know BA have many issues. I do want to keep it fluffy and my meta isn't so competitive that I would do otherwise. But I face a lot of terminators and without the vindicators or plasma devs I don't know how I'd tackle them? Any suggestions?
So far it seems 1 more scoring unit, and an alternative to the vindis...?
Thanks again all!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 17:31:07
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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No, don't put a DC dread in a Stormraven.
This list does have a lot of melta, but you can't fire that until right before you commit. Except the MM attack bikes. They can run termies in circles and frag them in the process. With FNP, they can win shootouts with cyclone termies.
It's not crazy to switch out the vindicators for auto/las preds, but that might suck vs hordes. You could drop one side of the opponent and lob the vindis against the other side, far from your troops. I might try that; this list is pretty good I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 19:01:55
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Martel732 wrote:No, don't put a DC dread in a Stormraven.
This list does have a lot of melta, but you can't fire that until right before you commit. Except the MM attack bikes. They can run termies in circles and frag them in the process. With FNP, they can win shootouts with cyclone termies.
It's not crazy to switch out the vindicators for auto/las preds, but that might suck vs hordes. You could drop one side of the opponent and lob the vindis against the other side, far from your troops. I might try that; this list is pretty good I think.
Thanks! I really like the idea of that tactic. I've never been attracted to preds, as a guard player I've found their fire power doesn't look great, maybe that's just me?
Even though they are short ranges vindis can handle termies and hordes.
Should I find points to give the second priest a bike rather than jump pack?
Any other suggestions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 19:03:50
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Well, as I said, it may take away too much anti-horde capability. You don't have that many templates in the list, which is my primary anti-horde tech.Well that and whirlwinds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 19:25:08
Subject: Re:Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Ok cool thanks!
So is it worth getting that priest a bike for the extra 10pts? That way he can keep up with the bikes and scoot across to the assault squads when needed?
Also I know it was recommended to take out the death co for a tactical squad, but if they stayed is that a decent load out with the two swords and axe? I guess a thunder hammer would be better than an axe?
Should I give the assault squads a flamer each or one squad swap both melta for flamers, or leave as is?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 19:29:26
Subject: Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Yes, biker priests are good.
Tactical squads are for shooting. Not HTH.
When I run two ASM squads, I use one with flamers and one with meltas. TAC right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 20:14:31
Subject: Re:Blood Angels 2k Death from above
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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I mean DC loadout not tactical squad hth.
Haha yer true!
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