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So ordanance lets you roll 2 dice and pick the highest and tank hunter lets you reroll all failed pens, would the combination of these two allow you to reroll both dice? I did do a search on the forum for this but it came up empty.

Yes. Ordnance pen rolls is the better of X+Strength and Y+Strength. Since both are armour pen rolls you can re-roll both.

Roll two dice pick the highest.
If you fail to pen repeat the above.
That's my interpretation anyway.

Doesn't tank hunter only allow re rolls of glances?

So if i had a riptide that nova overcharged his ion with an attached commander who has a PEN, hits a tank, then rolls 2 dices, both glancing, i can reroll both of those and keep the result?

Thats where it gets interesting, can i leave a glance and reroll a miss.

 Desubot wrote:
Doesn't tank hunter only allow re rolls of glances?

So if i had a riptide that nova overcharged his ion with an attached commander who has a PEN, hits a tank, then rolls 2 dices, both glancing, i can reroll both of those and keep the result?

Tank hunters allows you to reroll failed pens and glances.

I don't see why you wouldn't reroll both dice for glances, as that is how roll normally for ordinance. Unless tank hunters says you can only reroll one d6 somewhere, you're good.

blargel ok i reread the rule and looks like you can reroll missed pens so ignore that part. (edit: double blarg ninja-ed while i was typing)

Also wasn't there some kinda rule/faq that said if you had to reroll 2d6 you reroll both?

 Desubot wrote:
blargel ok i reread the rule and looks like you can reroll missed pens so ignore that part. (edit: double blarg ninja-ed while i was typing)

Also wasn't there some kinda rule/faq that said if you had to reroll 2d6 you reroll both?

There is a rule that says if you re-roll a 2D6, 3D6 etc. you have to re-roll the entire thing. The issue is you are not rolling 2D6, you are rolling 2 1D6s.

Sargow wrote:
Thats where it gets interesting, can i leave a glance and reroll a miss.

No, because what you rolled is a glance. not a glance and a miss. And the ordnance roll for armour pen is 2d6 pick the highest. If that is not what you roll for either roll, you are not following the rule(s).

*Edit*
Actually happyjew is more correct that it is two 1d6 rolls.

*Edit 2*
In fact, the only thing I see that states it rolls 2d6 for armor penetration is Armourbane. Everything else is "an extra die".

So, if some crazy weapon is somehow Melta, Armorbane, Ordnance, Rending, and Tank Hunter, what "dice" do you roll (2d6, 1d6+1d3, etc), in what combination, and which are you allowed to re-roll?

uberjoras wrote:
So, if some crazy weapon is somehow Melta, Armorbane, Ordnance, Rending, and Tank Hunter, what "dice" do you roll (2d6, 1d6+1d3, etc), in what combination, and which are you allowed to re-roll?

Ordnance is overridden by melta, you'd roll 2d6+1D6 with any 6 adding a D3 and you could reroll the initial 2d6+1d6 if you wished as that is your "armour penetration roll".

Not that hard.

It would be

3d6 rolled, choose to re-roll or not.
Any sixes add D3, roll those now.
Add it all together.

 Kevin949 wrote:

uberjoras wrote:
So, if some crazy weapon is somehow Melta, Armorbane, Ordnance, Rending, and Tank Hunter, what "dice" do you roll (2d6, 1d6+1d3, etc), in what combination, and which are you allowed to re-roll?

Ordnance is overridden by melta, you'd roll 2d6+1D6 with any 6 adding a D3 and you could reroll the initial 2d6+1d6 if you wished as that is your "armour penetration roll".

Not that hard.

It would be

3d6 rolled, choose to re-roll or not.
Any sixes add D3, roll those now.
Add it all together.

I disagree. The re-roll comes last. The D3's are explicitly added to the Armour Penetration Roll, and you can't tell if you've failed or Glanced until you add it all together. As Tank Hunters allows you to re-roll failed Penetration Rolls, you have to know that they've failed before you can re-roll them.

Please note that armourbane only works in close combat while ordnance and melta are specifically related to ranged weapons.

Moreover while is completely possibile for a ranged weapon to be both melta and ordnance I don't think such a weapon exist. This is both because those rules are designed to be either/or and because and ordnance-melta weapon doesn't make sense to me. (I may be completely failing on this point)

By the way, imho, such a weapon rolling to hit presents a case in which two effects would happen at the same time.
Controlling player decides to apply melta first and ordnance later. The effect is:
1D6 (normal) -> 2D6 (melta) -> Roll two dice instead of one so roll 2D6 and pick the highest than roll a single D6 and add up -> rending: from 0 to 2 additional D3 -> is that a glance? is that strenght to low? (tank hunter)
Instead controlling player could decide to apply ordnance first and melta later:
1D6 -> Roll twice and pick the highest -> Roll an additional dice and add up -> etc (as above).

As you can see (imho again) the result won't change at all and it is: Highest1(2D6) + 1D6 + rending
The whole can be repeated as for tank hunters.