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Hi all,

Ok this is the second bash at this list so have a look and let me know.

HQ1
Coy Command squad 170
Creed
Astropath
Master of Ordanace
Auto Cannon

Troop 1
Platoon Comand squad 50
4 Flamers
Inf Squad 70
Lascannon
Inf Squad 70
Lascannon
Inf Squad 70
Lascannon
Inf Squad 60
Rocket
Inf Squad 60
Rocket
Heavy Wep 60
Mortor

Troop 2
Platoon Command Squad 30
Inf Squad 60
Autocannon
Inf Squad 60
Autocannon
Inf Squad 65
Plasma gun
Inf Squad 65
Plasma gun
Inf Squad 65
Plasma gun
Troop 3

Fast 1
Vendetta 130
Fast 2
Vendetta 130
Heavy 1
Manticore 160
Heavy 2
Leman russ, H bolter 300
Leman russ, H bolter
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Heavy 3
Leman russ, H bolter 150
Lord Commisar 50
Agis Defence Line 50

Total 1945

Ok so i had a read of what you said and made some changes to my list, the first troop choice is to hold the line with my CCS whilst most of troop 2 with the lord Commisar comes in from the side useing outflank and hopefully takes out a sqishy unit or two.
I know Marbo is mint but i dont want a army held together by loads of characters and i just dont fancy haveing an army full of vendettas and Leman Russ Tanks.

Also i have 55 pts spare what do you think i could spend it on ? So have a look and let me know.
Cheers

Cranney

For a 2k foot list there's not many boots on the ground. At the moment its almost a perfect split between a mech and a foot list. So dont really know what to add since it seems it could go either way.

Well for basic things anyway, sponsons on regular russes aren't worth it since they have to snapfire whenever the ordnance battle cannon goes off. Its all well and good to deep strike in storm troopers for anti tank, but streamline them for the role so take purely melta. That'll give them a much more reliable output. Tech preists aren't that fabulous but hey its power armour in IG! Currently on the ground are a bunch of AV14 vehicles and 1 chimera. Those plasma vets probably wont last long as they're one of the easiest kills. This comes back to the mech/foot thing, sort of need a bit of redundancy so they last. In your squads, it seems a little random how you have lascannons then ML and autocannons then ML. I assume they're combined? Probably best to stick with either the lascannon or autocannon. It would also be good to get some specials in those squads. If you are worried about Ld, go for a Regimental standard of Lord commissar as it will benefit more groups than the one the commissar joins.
I think you should outflank the most massively fat blob of guardsmen toting meltaguns with a commissar all combined up... I dont really have a good idea for that, never used creed.
edit; just realised those are hull bolters, my bad

You think there is not enough boots on the ground ? i was under the asumpstion that in order to make a list playable i needed a good chunk of armour on the feild, i will look at dumping the vets in transport and swapping them out for maybe another trp of inf in one of the platoons.

I can make the storm troopers have two MM rather than MM & plasma you have a good point there i was just useing what i would get in the blister, The randomness of the different heavy weapons in the squads is down to only the models i have. My army is Valhallan and as you might know they not makeing any more models, its nails enough as it is to try and find the old Valhallan Lascannon models as it is and now they have gotten rid of the Autocannan models as well :(. Would it be wise to put special weapons and Heavy weapons in the same squads?

As for the Tec priest i thort he could of been some use behind my tanks fixing them up but having never used one i guess i will follow your advice and dump him out.

Also do you think two Vendettas is over kill?

Cheers for the advice and keep it coming please it realy is appreciated.

2 vedettas aren't over kill, and it gives you a couple of units that can benefit from the astropath. In terms of the foot/mech thing, the main point would just be the transports. Having a bunch of platoons supported by some russes or artillery are all well and good. Its just that with a chimera in the mix it makes for a bit of an easy kill.
I would loose the techy, and take a quad gun on the ADL. Leave the CCS to pilot it and between it and the vendettas you will up a good fight for the skies. I would also loose the veterans and use those points to bulk out the current platoons with maybe another squad and some specials (flamers or meltaguns mainly). I would also look at trying to squeeze in a 4th russ so maybe loose the commissar and mortars to help with that. If points are still short you could loose the storm troopers and get marbo, even if it is valhallen themed.

Lol 2 vendettas are overkill

1 Guide to Success with IG from fellow Dakkanaught

HQ ? Check
Massive blob of troops ? Check
Vendetta Spam ? Check
Left over points>artillery

To have a successful IG army in all honesty is really just spam something whether it be vendetta's, troops or tanks. A general rule of thumb for IG the more of it the better 6 vendetta's are much better than 2 vendetta's and 2 basilisks. However if your those guys who likes balance, get the most scariest units out of each section and try to get each unit to fill 1 specific role hence why we have like 6 different types of tanks.

HQ
Okay first thing is that you have got creed with his special ability "tactical genius" but I don't see units that could really excel from this. I see you have a squad of 2 base lemon ruses but there are better alternatives plus they got rid of lumbering behemoth so take off the sponsons. Preferably get at least 2 punishes and outflank his infantry, strength 5 40 rolls or get a 3 bane wolf's and smother everyone with poison, with tactical genius anything is possible.

I would suggest for you to get a lord commissar for his LD 10 bubble area, useful for infantry squads

Troops

Lascannons....for an infantry squad ?, if your following vendetta spam there's no real point as Vendetta's have 3 twin linked lascannons, more than enough to destroy a landraider....with flyer rules and half the points. If you want to give your infantry squads more dakka give them an autocannon each.

Mortar heavy weapons team suck, I learnt the hard way expecting them to take down a good portion on nids....there really not needed if every infantry squad has an autocannon

Need more veterans IMO If you got rid of the lascannons you can spare points for them

Fast Attack

Ahhh vendetta's, they have more twin linked lascannons, carry 12 models and cost half as much as a land raider. Plus they have the flyer special role so its nearly impossible to shoot them down without dedicated equipment. Costing only 130 points the only logical thing to do with them is spam them, get at least 4.

Bane wolf's or hellhounds are a solid choice however don't feel you need them as there more for the sub 1000 points games

Heavy

Classic leman russ are the jack of all trades master of none tanks, but they still look good
Punisher which would pair nicely with creed, 20 shots with S5 pretty much wipes out any infantry
Demolisher with a S10 AP2 shot can wreak havoc on anything, it also pairs nicely with creed
A manticore or deathstrike are fun with a lot of firepower, get them as your "wild card"

Elite

IMO storm troopers are overhyped veterans,I know little about them but they sound like overhyped veterans
Tech Priest sounds great but......not worth, with 60 points you could get another troops squad who could do more than chance repair a vehicle
A good must is to get marbo. hell get rid of the tech priest and spare 5 points. With 65 points you can
-deep strike without scatter
-Pesky terminators ? chuck a large blast demo charge at them
-Pesky Land raider ? Throw some melta bombs behind it
-Abandon with a new black crusade ? Chuck a demo charge or failing that snipe him with a pistol that ignores terminator armor and wounds on 2+
-Very useful for getting rid of the enemies most dangerous unit except flyers

Recap

This is your list, my opinions don't feel obliged to follow them
I suggest a vendetta spam cause there just fun and incredibly annoying to the enemy with basically invincible, tank destroying, troop carrying demons
Get marbo, so worth 65 points
Use tactical genius as effectively as you can

Ok so made some changes above and let me know.

Cheers

Cranney