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Hi dakka,

Looking for a rounded 1000p list. Opponents could be all races, and I'm a bit worried about mech infantry. Been going back and forth on this one, but this is the latest incarnation.

Game plan: Oblits and havoks target transports (then contents), noise marines target anything scoring, MEQ or multi-wound. Bikers and Lord harass and flame troops, hordes and aims to get into CC and take the fight to the enemy. (At higher points levels the plan is to give them IoE, but I can't fit it in..) CSM squad is allround scoring, probably going forward in wake of bikers, to grab/contest objective. Noise marines will hold my half objective(s).

Weaknesses seem to be high AV and Fliers. Fliers are rare in my Meta at this points level, but if encountered my Havoks will try to take them out, or I just have to ignore it and take the pain. Or should I change something?

The CSM squad loadout I'm a bit torn on. I wanted combi-melta and a rhino as well, but puting a single rhino on the board seems like giving away First blood, no? Would it still be better with 2 meltas than AC + melta? That cuold help with high AV, but since mass DE raider/venom armies give me the shivers I went with an AC for added anti-transport flexibility. Also, are the extra CC weapons + bolters worth it? VoTLW seems nice, but means I'd have to drop something else.

Comments, suggestions?

Lord, mark of slaanesh
pwr wep
bike(T5)
aura of dark glory
burning brand
tot = 160


10 CSM
meltagun
autocannon
extra cc weapons
tot 178

5 noise marines
blastmaster
4 sonic blasters
tot 137

5 noise marines
blastmaster
4 sonic blasters
tot 137

5 bikers (cc + bp)
2 bike mounted flamers
tot 120

2 Obliterators, mark of nurgle 152

5 havoks, 4 autocannons 115

Tot 999 p

Drop sonic blasters & try to give bike squad MoS + IoE so lord gets fnp.

Everyone's weakness are fliers especially when IG spam it......if your really concerned get a heldrake.

Honestly your csm squad is going to do nothing effective. You have an autocannon and a meltagun, weapons with massive range differences and would probably snapfire in the 1-2 turns. If you want your CSM squad to be that tank hunters, give them mark of nurgle and give them 2 melta's. If you want to destroy those transports or DE raider/venom armies get some more havocs with AC's. IMO I would take off the extra noise marines and get some more infantry thousand sons seem good.

 Filch wrote:
Drop sonic blasters & try to give bike squad MoS + IoE so lord gets fnp.

Yeah, been wanting that too but finding it a stretch at 1000p. But I could drop the lord's inv save and save some on the CSM squad to get it. See below.

 Traffic Conez wrote:
Everyone's weakness are fliers especially when IG spam it......if your really concerned get a heldrake.

Honestly your csm squad is going to do nothing effective. You have an autocannon and a meltagun, weapons with massive range differences and would probably snapfire in the 1-2 turns.

Very good comment, that's what I'm afraid of. I've gone and tried to make them too all rounded, ending up with a squad that's not effective at anything. I'm thinking either
a) make them 10 CSM, AC + Plasma gun (165p) or
b) make them 10 CSM, 2 meltaguns, extra CCW (178p) or
c) make them 10 CSM, 2 meltaguns (160p)


Suggested updated list:

Lord, mark of slaanesh
pwr wep
bike(T5)
burning brand
tot = 145


8 CSM
1 meltagun, 1 combi-melta
7 x extra ccw
tot 148

5 noise marines
blastmaster
4 sonic blasters
tot 137

5 noise marines
blastmaster
4 sonic blasters
tot 137

5 bikers (cc + bp)
2 bike mounted flamers
MoS + IoE
tot 165

2 Obliterators, mark of nurgle 152

5 havoks, 4 autocannons 115

Tot 999 p

Couldn't quite afford the 10 csm, so 8 with a combi-melta is sort of an emergency solution. But could be good as that squad gets 3 melta shots at higher points levels.

Viable?