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Hey me and my friend are entering into a doubles tournament so I have decided to use blood angels. I have never played them before and don't have any so I was wandering about some advise for my army. He is playing grey knights with a lot of guns so I have decided to go for a cc army. Thanks for looking.

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2000+ points of imperial guards
1000 points of imperial fists
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine



Nonbeing, that is to say, everything.

A list i've used quite frequently in tourneys is as follows.

1x Libby (JP) - 125

10x RAS (PW, x2 flamers, MB) - 220

10x RAS (PF, x2 MG) - 235

10x Tac. (flamer, ML)- 170

Alternatively you could switch the Tac. out for a baal or something similar, or you could take a jump priest and some land speeders (some by dropping the MB in the first RAS). Hope this helps!

JAMOB  
   
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Thanks for that but what are ras


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Also the kind of thing I was looking at we're assult troops and death company with a priest and the death warden guy though don't no his coat

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1500 points of BA
2000+ points of imperial guards
1000 points of imperial fists
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Lizardmen- all skirmish forces 
   
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Don't know what that R stands for but he means Assault squads. A good, solid choice for Troops but I'm not sure about the Tac squad. Pretty good but they need Rhino.

And DC doesn't need priest, they have FnP and Furious Charge anyway. But Assault squads benefit from him if that's what you mean.

"the death warden guy" meaning Chaplain or Lemartes? Good option with DC.

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Thanks so a solid base of 10 man assult squad with priest then death company with lementars (is he HQ) then something else I have space, I heard the dreadnoughts with blood talons are good. I will be getting codex soon hopefully thanks for all the advise

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2000+ points of imperial guards
1000 points of imperial fists
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if your buying assult marines just buy the death co pack , they give you alot more options in items then the assult marine pack, im talking about the box for modeling, not the unit and such

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Yeah thanks for that, it includes hand flamers and things like that

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Lemartes is actually a Troop choice that you can include in DC with somewhat 150p and he takes no slot in FOC

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What would you recomened for HQ

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alex2781 wrote:
What would you recomened for HQ


libby with jp

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Cool

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1000 points of imperial fists
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Nonbeing, that is to say, everything.

RAS is Regular Assault Squad, so not terminators or scouts with CC or anything else, just the jumpers.

Anyway, if your ally will have enough scoring DC is definitely a good idea. Barring Astorath, I would say

Libby (JP) - 125

10x RAS (2x Flmr.) - 200

7x\x DC (JP, 1x PF) - 270
+ Lemartes - 150

5 points left. Sadly you don't have enough for a dread, as DC are very expensive. Or a priest, unless you want to drop 2 DC but 5 men is too small.

TBH, I would advise against Lemartes - you can get a chappie and another DC with some playing around if you drop him. Your call though.

JAMOB  
   
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Thanks

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1000 points of imperial fists
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Librarian with Jacket Potatoe.

I'm just starting BA so this is all helpful for me too. I think DC are a bit expensive for this points lever tbh.


 
   
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Lists that utilize DC frankly end in disaster quite often. Opponents that know what they are looking at will neutralize them in some manner. The more points your pour in, the more you are getting neutralized.

It's not the DC are any more resilient than any other BA trooper with a SP buddy. That's perhaps their biggest failing. Well that and not scoring. And needing to charge. And having limited utility if counter-charged. Oh and winning a lot on the first turn, so they are not in combat for your opponent's turn.

Yeah. Thanks for nothing on the DC, GW.
   
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What would you suggest instead of DC, and also it's not just 750 it will grow


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And I may not know that much about BA but when I play against death company I focus a lot on them becauses they are dangerous units (are they troop

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1500 points of BA
2000+ points of imperial guards
1000 points of imperial fists
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Lizardmen- all skirmish forces 
   
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But they are only truly dangerous when they charge. If you assault them, they are nothing special. Their primary problem is that of deployment. They'd be a lot better if their jump packs didn't cost as much as a tactical marine. (almost)
   
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So what would you say instead


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As a good choice for 750-1000

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1500 points of BA
2000+ points of imperial guards
1000 points of imperial fists
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Lizardmen- all skirmish forces 
   
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Well, if you want to assault, I'd just go with ASM. They're not that great, but they can beat up lots of other troop choices. But not the ones you really *want* to beat up.

I have some very squirrely lists that try to avoid assault as well.
   
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So If I got rid of DC what could I put in its place ???????

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1000 points of imperial fists
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ASM, presumably. Something that lets you actually win. Maybe.

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What more

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1000 points of imperial fists
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For the doubles scene, if your partner has shooting cover, you might try 2 10 man ASM squads, a jump librarian with shield of sangunius and a Baal with Flame storm cannon. It's one possible list that will keep heat off your partner. Oh and don't forget the sanguinary priest.

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How much would that cost


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Points wise

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1500 points of BA
2000+ points of imperial guards
1000 points of imperial fists
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Lizardmen- all skirmish forces 
   
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Not sure off the top of my head, but Dakka doesn't usually want us posting pts.
   
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I would run:

Libby
1x 5man assault squad (no packs) 1x melta gun, 1 powersword, razorback lasplas turret, searchlight
2x 5man assault squad (no packs) 1x melta gun, razorback lasplas turret, searchlight
1x predator autocanon, lascanon sponsons search light
1x predator autocanon, HB sponsons search light

750 of being fast 48 inch goodness. Dont run 10man jumpers, in this meta with heckdrakes and weight of fire they wont live long enough to score anything. My opinion anyways.

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What about 1000 points of BA goodness

1500 points of BA
2000+ points of imperial guards
1000 points of imperial fists
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Lizardmen- all skirmish forces 
   
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For 1K points, I would try something like this:

10 ASM squad, 2X melta, power axe on sarge

10 ASM squad, 2X flamer

Priest w/jump pack, power axe

Libby w/jump pack, force axe, shield of sanguinius/shackle soul

MM attack bike X 3

Fragnought in drop pod with magna grapple.


This is some in-your-face stuff to buy time for the GKs to dakka. Shield of sanguinius should make the ASM very hard to kill with plasma and other non-STR 8 schemes.
   
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Thanks I will use that as a strong base but prob take out attack bikes and maybe some thing else to experiment with

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2000+ points of imperial guards
1000 points of imperial fists
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