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This is a themed list, butcher Tier 2. I've never tried one before and was wondering if they are any good. I am typically playing steamroller scenarios against other
players that are just as new as I am. I picked this themed list at this level, since it gives me a speed boost fist turn helping reach objectives, and it seem Khador
needs help there. I am fairly new, so I only have the one list (instead of the multiple you bring to a steamroller event). I also wish to be come competitive eventually,
so any and all feedback is appreciated.

-pButcher
-War Dog

-Spriggan
-Juggernaut

-MoW Shocktroopers - full unit
-MoW Demo Corps - full unit
-Widowmakers

-Manhunter

Basic plan was to run the MoW units full 12" first turn (extra movement from theme list), then have the Shocktroopers get shield wall and cover advance of Demo Corps.
Manhunter for either a secondary caster guard, or flank area denial. Widowmakers stay out of the way and pick off infantry or support models. Butcher advances with the
jacks, sticks by his puppy and goes where he is needed. I am hoping the quicker MoW units buys me time to hold at least one objective.

My thoughts on this list is that its at least worth a shot running. What concerns me is the lack of heavy ranged attacks, especially against infantry. Widowmakers can fill this
role, but with low number of shots, I'm not sure how they will perform, even with full throttle. Best fixes within the themed force are repacing the manhunter with the Widowmaker
Marksman, or dropping the solo altogether and upgrading the Jugg to a destroyer. So, dakkadakka, what are you're thoughts? Is a themed force worth it, or is the loss of options not worth it?

First and Foremost, welcome to dakka.

pButcher theme is ok. I wouldn't bring it to a steamroller though.

The issue with MOW is they are slow (which the theme helps but not greatly) and honestly they are over costed points wise.

If you want a good solid medium based infantry to screen pButcher and hold objectives I would point you towards Boom Howler and Co.

As for speed, Khador is surprisingly fast. Here is a fun list I ran at 35pts, It's FAST, hits hard, and if your opponent doesn't have a bunch of AOE's it can be pretty over whelming.

The Butcher of Khardov (*6pts)
* Kodiak (8pts)
Doom Reavers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)
* Greylord Escort (2pts)
Great Bears of Gallowswood (5pts)
Kayazy Assassins (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Kayazy Assassin Underboss (2pts)
Kayazy Eliminators (Leader and Grunt) (3pts)
Widowmakers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (4pts)
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution (3pts)

I'm pretty new to Warmachine and this is the exact list that I've built save that I have a Destroyer instead of the Spriggan. Also have a Devastator (sp) because I think it looks awesome.

I've only played a few games and have done well - the Butcher's feat really helps with ranged attacks. Also, since I'm usually one to go for the finesse casters, having a real beatstick of a warcaster is quite a change.

Other than that, being so new myself, I don't have much to add. Buy what you want, play what you want.

butcher is awsome and welcome to dakka

witch butcher he is a caster where you can go super jack heavy, so the more jack the more focus your saving

butcher with infantry is just there, he does better with jacks, if you want tanky go shock troops, if you want killy go doom reavers, if you want a mix go shock troops

if you need range wintergaurd or bombardiers, butcher and his army likes to be close to the oppoent and beat them up, and widow does chip damage and not the best unless you are just doing it FOR the chip damage to jacks or ifantry units