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Do vector strikes force grounding tests? The GT rule just says from shooting attacks. So we played it that no test was required.

Well it's all in the grounding test rules. And I'm pretty sure no errata changed that. I'd say you did it right.

Hmmm. Thats an interesting one. Im not sure. As its written technically no as it uses the attackers Strength and is basically a CC attack done in the Movement phase, like the Sweep (or whatever) that Chariots can do. Though as you are being hit by a big beastie, my common sense says you should take a grounding test.

But as far as I can see it doesnt say you need to in the rules.

Well, for a Grounded Test (p.49): If a Flying Monstrous Creature that is Swooping suffers one or more hits from a unit's Shooting attack, it must take a Grounded test immediately after that Shooting attack has been resolved.

Vector Strike (p.43) is not technically a shooting attack, but is related: "That unit takes D3+1 hits, resolved at the model’s unmodified Strength and AP3, using Random Allocation..." and "A model that made a Vector Strike in its Movement phase counts as having already fired one weapon in its following Shooting phase. However, any additional weapons it fires that turn can choose a different target to that of the Vector Strike."

The FAQ doesn't say anything else really. I mean, this part is interesting:

Q: Do you have to take a Grounded test for a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creaturethat has only been hit, or for one that has suffered a Wound? (p49)
A: For a Flying Monstrous Creature that has been hit.

But it doesn't really clarify anything since the context of the question could assume "shooting attacks" only.

HIWPI : The MC is not grounded. I like to imagine two flying beasties clawing at each other and grappling as they are going through the air.

Nope, no grounding test as vector strike is not in shooting phase it is not a shooting attack,

MarkyMark wrote:
Nope, no grounding test as vector strike is not in shooting phase it is not a shooting attack,

By that logic interceptor and overwatch aren't shooting attacks either because they aren't in the shooting phase

 A GumyBear wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:
Nope, no grounding test as vector strike is not in shooting phase it is not a shooting attack,

By that logic interceptor and overwatch aren't shooting attacks either because they aren't in the shooting phase

Overwatch is resolved like a shooting phase (says that in its rules), thats exception enough there. Now interceptor doesnt say like a shooting phase but it does say shooting attack. Vector strike says neither of these so the exceptions are the for overwatch and interceptor but not for vector strike

Page 43 – Special Rules, Vector Strike.
Change the second paragraph to read “When Swooping, this
model may savage its prey. At the end of the Movement Phase,
nominate one unengaged enemy unit the model has moved
overthat turn. This unit may even be an enemy Flyer. That unit
takes D3+1 hits,resolved at the model’s unmodified Strength
and AP3, using Random Allocation. Against vehicles, these hits
are resolved against the target’s side armour. No coversaves are
allowed against these hits.”

Ya ik that but the way you explained it was very poor

I find it amusing that you still take grounding tests from being hit by a flashlight but not a vector strike. You definitely do not though.

krazykishere wrote:
I find it amusing that you still take grounding tests from being hit by a flashlight but not a vector strike. You definitely do not though.

Hey man, Markerlights are blinding. Didn't your Mother ever tell you not to shine laser pointers into someone else's eyes?

MadmanMSU wrote:

krazykishere wrote:
I find it amusing that you still take grounding tests from being hit by a flashlight but not a vector strike. You definitely do not though.

Hey man, Markerlights are blinding. Didn't your Mother ever tell you not to shine laser pointers into someone else's eyes?

I think he was refering to flashlights (lasguns) not markerlights

 A GumyBear wrote:

MadmanMSU wrote:

krazykishere wrote:
I find it amusing that you still take grounding tests from being hit by a flashlight but not a vector strike. You definitely do not though.

Hey man, Markerlights are blinding. Didn't your Mother ever tell you not to shine laser pointers into someone else's eyes?

I think he was refering to flashlights (lasguns) not markerlights

While I will not speak specifically for Madman, lasguns can still wound many FMCs. It would be more amusing, then, for a FMC to be grounded and take a Str9 wound against a Markerlight, something that can't even wound it! The word "flashlights" has been used to refer to both markers and lasguns in this forum. So I will say that, if I had said "flashlights" in this context, then it would've meant "markerlights."

To the OP, the way I usually play it is if you have a special rule dealing with Shooting attacks (such as Grounding tests or Wave Serpent Energy fields) they do not apply. This means VS will not cause a Grounding test and a S9-10 base FMC is still S9/10 when VSing a Wave Serpent.

Well if a FMC has to make a grounding test because it gets hit by Tau marklighters, because it was hit by a shooting attack, and a vector strike isn't a shooting attack, then no, FMC does not have to make a grounding test.

Would I make a grounding test if my flyrant got vector struck? Yeah, my group doesn't play as strictly by RAW as others.

Yeah I was talking about markerlights. I didn't even know lasguns were referred to as such, only been playing a year.

Someone wrote higher up that VS "is basically a CC attack done in the Movement phase" but that isn't really right either.

For instance, my Swarmlord does not get his 4++ against a VS attack.

I agree that VS does not cause grounded tests as it is not a shooting attack..