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How are psyker battle squads this edition? I remember at one point they were basically the  , but I haven't heard as much in quite a while. I tried out a unit of 8 recently and they performed fairly well to my surprise, but are they the sort of unit that justifies its 110 point price tag?

(btw, for the sake of the discussion, please ignore Runes of Warding and Runic Weapons since they obviously screw over psykers in general. At the very least, RoW are about to get a massive nerf next month, and I imagine Runic Weapons will as well when Wolves get updated since psychic defence has been hampered across the board.)

Them losing WR out of Chimera would be my guess as to their lack of use in 6th.

They can't cast out of Chimeras anymore, so many people ditched them entirely. If you can keep them alive their powers are as useful as ever, but you'll have to hop out of the Chimera to cast now.

They were never *that* powerful in 5th. There was a 50% chance that the large blase wouldn't penetrate power armour, at which point you were paying 155 points for an AV 12 leman russ with a pathetic battle cannon.

Weaken resolve was...meh. Situational. Personally I never found a use for it, though maybe in 6th you could combine it with mind war for some cheese - although IIRC the amount of rolls and saves that are made makes this very unlikely.

I thought that might have something to do with it, but they could always just cast from behind an Aegis Line or other fortification (plus their powers have quite a long range).

They are good in a foot list as everything else is in the open as well. They can be good vs Necrons as they have to pass Ld before comming back from the dead and they can force mon-fearless guys back before they charge your lines. Sometimes you just need more pie plates.


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Also forgot to mention the combined with a Primaris Psyker they can be quite deadly. Most of the telekinetics power are a gf against the targets Ld.

Actually, its better to place them behind ADL. If you place them horizontally accross the ADL, you could cast pbs power from any model of the unit.

 BryllCream wrote:
Weaken resolve was...meh. Situational. Personally I never found a use for it, though maybe in 6th you could combine it with mind war for some cheese - although IIRC the amount of rolls and saves that are made makes this very unlikely.

Weaken Resolve + Manticores for barrage ordnance pinning tests was an extremely potent combination in 5th. It still is, but less so now due to the changes to how multiple barrages from a single weapon function, casting out of fire points, and Deny the Witch rolls.

Why can't they shoot out of chimeras anymore?

herpguy wrote:
Why can't they shoot out of chimeras anymore?

They can use the blast attack since it's a psychic shooting attack, but weaken resolve won't work. This is because the firing points of a vehicle can only be used by the occupants for shooting attacks (including psychic shooting attacks). All other things which require them to pick a target do not work.