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Made in nz
Disguised Speculo





Hey dakka, got a game of Big Guns Never Tire, 1500 points, No Fliers against CSM tomorrow.

I've never managed to win against this guy, because all our games have been his CSM Gunline / Helldrake Spam against various 'fun' lists I've brought (double Warpheads, etc). But not tomorrow, no, tomorrow I'm going to play seriously and kick his ass.

He runs Forgefiends, Obliterators, and Vindicators alongside a couple of Helldrakes, though he can't bring those today. I've never seen a single CSM in his army, just minimum Cultist squads. So I'm expecting one of each Heavy and a bunch of bodies. I'm thinking, I'll bring Gunline Orks and have a good ol' gunline showdown (just like a real showdown, its all down to who draws first (rolls first turn =/)

Army Composition: 1500pt Orks, Gunline, Competitive
Points Total: 1499

2x "SAG Mek" - 226
-Big Mek, SAG, Cybork, Bosspole, Ammo Runt
Attach to Loota Mobs as needed for Leadership
One SAG Mek is allied

1x "SAG Wagon" - 165
-Junka, SAG, Deff Rolla
Dedicated Transport for Big Mek

2x Loota Mobs - 450
-15x Lootas

3x Grot Bomm Launcha - 90

2x Lobbas -168
-3 Lobbas, 3 Ammo Runts

1x "Supa Trakk" - 130
-Big Trakk, Supa Kannon, 'ard case

2x "Dakkatrukk" - 224
-12x Shoota Boys
-Trukk w/ Reinforced Ram

1x "Weedy Grots" - 46
-12x Gretchin, 1x Runtherd


Very interested to hear how I could improve the list. Cheers

Edit: One thing I am considering is allying in a Dread Mob, swapping the deff rolla Junka for another SAG Mek, and making some of the Lootas into Allied, Heavy Support Lootas so they become scoring. The only problem there though, is that I can't have a teleporting deffrolla...

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/18 06:27:42


 
   
Made in nz
Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

It seems quite mixed up. You've got lobbas which are really only useful against hordes, so the cultists, but they also compete with the shoota boys who would also be good against them. If there's no helldrakes, I would be more inclined to go for a trukk rush style list seeing as you have a whole heap of those junkas made up that could be used. You'll be struggling to out shoot him with the forgefiends and vindicators unless you get lucky with the SAGs.
So I would go with nob bikers and trukk boys. Since the forgefiends are vehicles, I'd take boarding planks on the trukks seeing as the klaws will be what does the real damage.
This is drastically different from the gunline that you've put up, but IMO would work better. Something in the order of 500pts of biker nobs, bikers boss and 6 trukk units with some boarding planks in there. Nob bikers for the vindicators, trukks for the forgefiend and cultists and the obliterator will be a bit of a wild card.
But to keep it in theme, for a gunline I would loose the vehicles, get kannons more gretchin and shoota boys. Its just as I said before, AV12-13. Not so easy to take at a distance.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/18 07:38:51


If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
Made in nz
Disguised Speculo





Nob Bikers to kill the Vindicators? That thing was the reason I *wasn't* taking any bikers! I can just see that S10 pie plate nuking 500 points of Nob Bikers in one shot...

Your right about those SAGs, they just won't cut it. Lootas can hurt Forgefiends and Vindicators but not very well, and they aren't great against Obliterators either. So lets see if this will work instead;

3x Battle Trukks of Destiny - 504
-11 Shoota Boys, Nob w/ Rokkit, Klaw, Bosspole
-Trukk w/ Rokkit, Ram, Plank
Plank vehicles. Not sure if they can plank Forgefiends without being hit back, need to look into that

Gun Trukk Battlegroup - 300
-4x Gun Trukk w/ Kannon, Rokkit
As Heavy Support Choices, they will be scoring in this game
Screens the Battle Trukks, shoots things, blocks line of sightzooms onto objectives at the end of the game

2x Lobba Guns - 168
-3 Lobbas, 3 Ammo Runts
Sit on objectives, drop bombs. They can threaten rear armour, kill cultists, or wear down oblits through volume of fire. Theres a guy on here who says they're the gak so I want to try them out.

4x Grot Bomm Launcha - 140
Pie Plates force the enermy to spread out. Drop bomms on targets of opportunity from in cover. Then zoom around blocking LoS and stuff.

Biker Boys - 388
-Warboss, Warbike, Power Klaw, Cybork, Ammo Runt
-4 Bikers, Banner, Bosspole, 2 Klaw
Klaw delivery service

Points: 1500

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/18 10:40:48


 
   
 
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