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I shot down a vendetta and it scattered and centered onto a second vendetta. Does the crashed vendetta large blast hit the other vendetta or does it miss because you can't hit flyers with large blasts?

We played it as no.

 deviantduck wrote:
I shot down a vendetta and it scattered and centered onto a second vendetta. Does the crashed vendetta large blast hit the other vendetta or does it miss because you can't hit flyers with large blasts?

We played it as no.

You've answered yourself.

It's not actually a blast weapon.

it's very similar to one, but there's no reason Hard to Hit would effect it since it's not a shooting attack with the Blast or Large Blast special rules.

 Drunkspleen wrote:
It's not actually a blast weapon.

it's very similar to one, but there's no reason Hard to Hit would effect it since it's not a shooting attack with the Blast or Large Blast special rules.

But it has been made pretty clear in various FAQ's that THE only way to hit a flyer is using the Hard to Hit rules.

Q: How do maelstroms, novas and beams – or indeed any weapon that doesn’t need to roll To Hit or hits automatically – interact with Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures? (p13)
A: Only Snap Shots can hit Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures. Therefore, any attacks that use blast markers, templates, create a line of/area of effect or otherwise don’t roll to hit cannot target them. This includes weapons such as the Necron Doom Scythe’s death ray or the Deathstrike missile of the Imperial Guard, and psychic powers that follow the rule for maelstroms, beams, and novas.

Doesn't need to be a weapon, just an attack.

Does it roll to hit?
If yes then is it snapshooting/got skyfire.
If not does it have specific permission to hit flyers (like say the stormlord's lightning).

 grendel083 wrote:
Doesn't need to be a weapon, just an attack.

Of which it is neither as it doesn't target anything.

I just wish fliers could ram each other

edit: silly me

can we just like... give it exploding flyers the skyfire rule?

You can houserule everything you and you'r opponent feel like, it is a game after all.

 Krellnus wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
Doesn't need to be a weapon, just an attack.

Of which it is neither as it doesn't target anything.

Many attacks do not target anything. Some attacks are indiscriminate.

Better question is: Was the blast marker fired as a snap shot? If not then it can not hit a Zooming Flyer.

 HoverBoy wrote:
You can houserule everything you and you'r opponent feel like, it is a game after all.

That is what I meant, after all.

There was a degree of sarcasm mixed in there. :p

 DeathReaper wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
Doesn't need to be a weapon, just an attack.

Of which it is neither as it doesn't target anything.

Many attacks do not target anything. Some attacks are indiscriminate.

Better question is: Was the blast marker fired as a snap shot? If not then it can not hit a Zooming Flyer.

I'd house rule that the Explosion of another flyer can hit, seeing as they are at the same 'level', way more cinematic and fun that way.

I figured the explosion represents the flyer hitting the ground.

 Bausk wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
Doesn't need to be a weapon, just an attack.

Of which it is neither as it doesn't target anything.

Many attacks do not target anything. Some attacks are indiscriminate.

Better question is: Was the blast marker fired as a snap shot? If not then it can not hit a Zooming Flyer.

I'd house rule that the Explosion of another flyer can hit, seeing as they are at the same 'level', way more cinematic and fun that way.

If you played it that way, units on the ground wouldn't have to worry about getting wreckage dropped on them...gravity is much more fun and cinematic!

helotaxi wrote:

 Bausk wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
Doesn't need to be a weapon, just an attack.

Of which it is neither as it doesn't target anything.

Many attacks do not target anything. Some attacks are indiscriminate.

Better question is: Was the blast marker fired as a snap shot? If not then it can not hit a Zooming Flyer.

I'd house rule that the Explosion of another flyer can hit, seeing as they are at the same 'level', way more cinematic and fun that way.

If you played it that way, units on the ground wouldn't have to worry about getting wreckage dropped on them...gravity is much more fun and cinematic!

Can you imagine the chain reactions as flyers begin smashing into other flyers, and because of one lucky shot, you take out a whole Cron-Air Force...!