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Thinking of whether to take Bloodthirster or Skarbrand to be my Word Bearers Ally.

LET THE DEBATE BEGIN.

(I run cultist Horde list and 2 heldrakes btw)

Skarbrand - cheapest, slow, kills almost anything it touches
Bloodthirster - expensive, faster, also kills almost anything it touches, can take gifts

The point difference isn't that big, but the BT is just so much faster and will still kill almost anything. It can also take gifts which can make it nigh on unkillable (4+ FNP is just sick).

 Shandara wrote:
Skarbrand - cheapest, slow, kills almost anything it touches
Bloodthirster - expensive, faster, also kills almost anything it touches, can take gifts

The point difference isn't that big, but the BT is just so much faster and will still kill almost anything. It can also take gifts which can make it nigh on unkillable (4+ FNP is just sick).

Yeah. The greater rewards on Bloodthirster just cannot go wrong. feth.

There's no debate. It boils down to wings vs no wings. Wings in this example are vastly superior. Skabrand is powerful but too easy to avoid. The BT is very, very hard to out manoeuvre.

I'd take skarbrand if using deamons in cc as his area buff of hate/rage is damn good, but he's slow. Otherwise the basic thirster with exhaulted and greater gifts works for me his speed and power means what he hits is generally going to die.

Plus if you're taking Demons as an allie, you're not getting Skarbrand's warlord trait. Bloodthirster all day in this scenario

There's no debate, Skarbrand is almost never better in an actual game than a Bloodthirster.

He's only better in hypothetical scenarios that are extremely unlikely to actually happen.

I don't rate ID highly but he is less scary without it, the only real way skarbrand is better than a blodthirster is that you can do an awesome double axe mangled wings conversion

Skarbrand is awesome when he is surrounded by slaanesh units for re-rolls. As mentioned above, greater gifts are just amazing. Take 2 greater and 1 lesser gift on a bloodthirster and call it good.

Worst case is you roll the +3 armor save, in the event it happens. Roll your second dice, then if you get the +3 again you can re-roll and take the blade of blood to give mr. bloodthirster rampage.

A related question.
Is a Bloodthirster reason enough to take daemon allies over Necron or IG?

Consider the following on that notion minigun762

He is simply an HQ choice
He can fly (IE hard to hit = forcing snap shots)
He is I10 and mangles pretty much anything
He can get a hilarious amount of customization
Unlocks Daemon Princes as HS which is not bad either

GoliothOnline wrote:
Consider the following on that notion minigun762

He is simply an HQ choice
He can fly (IE hard to hit = forcing snap shots)
He is I10 and mangles pretty much anything
He can get a hilarious amount of customization
Unlocks Daemon Princes as HS which is not bad either

Well I'm biased as I am already trying to find the points to fit one in with my CSMs.
I was more thinking in a general sense.

Honestly, I would take IG and just run a squadron of Vendetta along side a cheap HQ + Small Troop blob.

Cuz everyone loves Vendetta
Vendetta + Helturkey = You lose friends though :(

Bloodthirster.
Wings are better than no wings.