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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine





New Jersey

My question is simple. You have your land speeder from raven wing support, if you want to upgrade it to the cyclone missiles or tornado pattern, do you still keep the heavy bolter or no?

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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets






Does the codex say to replace the heavy bolter with...?
   
Made in us
Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine





New Jersey

No but I'm new to dark angels and I was just checking because it doesn't really say, thanks man!

A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt.
– quoting from the Tactica Imperium  
   
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Fixture of Dakka




Vanished Completely

Actually... it isn't that easy to answer Solo as it uses the word upgrade for the entire model, meaning you replace the whole thing.

However I would still say it has the heavy bolter, as it is listed as standard war-gear with no indication that it is limited to just the vanilla land speeder. This limitation is normally found in ( ) under the wargear listing itself, which you can see in many entries as it is a common formatting tool. If there is no limitation in ( ) then you use that war gear for every model related to that squad, upgrades included. Any exceptions to this rule are listed within the upgrade entry itself, and I do not see any exceptions listed in the land speeder to indicate that it loses the heavy bolter.

To use an example in the same book as to what I mean by limitations that are clearly listed:

The command squad has multiple models that can be upgraded to other models. In all these case any of the standard war-gear to be changed is clearly notated as such, even using the words replace X with Y. This means those models retain every other piece of war-gear listed, bar those in ( ) that do not contain their name, except for those which you are being informed must be changed out for something else.

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