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Hey everyone, so I am going to be picking up the Tau battle force soon as an allied detachment for my space marines and eventually as a stand alone army.

I have been flipping through my codex trying to add it up and I got a little over 600 points.
I was wondering if you guys could look at it and tell me if its a legal list and how to improve it. I know I need another group of firewarriors though.

HQ
XV8 Commander
with TL fuison Blaster and TL missle pod
TOTAL HQ 120 points


Troops
Fire Warrior team
1 upgraded to shas'ui
64 points

Fire Warrior team
54 points

TOTAL TROOP 118

Elites
XV8 Crisis Team (2 suits)
1 with plasma rifle and fusion blaster
1 with TL burst cannon and missile pod
104 points

Stealth team
3 with counter fire defense
1 upgraded to Shas'vre
1 upgraded to fusion blaster
1 marker light drone
122 points

TOTAL ELITES 226 Points

Fast Attack
Gun drone squad plus 4 gun drones
112 points

Piranha with fusion blaster
50 points

TOTAL FAST ATTACK POINTS 162

TOTAL ARMY POINTS 626

How can I increase this to 750 points? Should I just get another squad of fire warriors as a start?
Any more advise would be great this is my first tau list so I know I am defiantly missing something haha

If this is supposed to be the Allied detatchment part then you have 2 EL which doenst work.

but ether way.

HQ: He is BS 5 so twinlinking is a bit moot, try to focus his roll, ether focus long range harrass with missile pods, or short range anti tank duty fusion blasters.
give him a Iridium armor as it is VERY awesome.

TR: if this is for allied you might as well make it 1 group of 12. shas ui upgrades are kinda point sinks and not really worth it.

EL: your rolls are all mixed up. you will be wasting alot of points not shooting certain weapons depending on the position or range. as the HQ focus your role. also if this is for allies, make them body guards but be careful of point sinking too much.

the stealth team: random markerlights here and there wont really help that much. and the ui upgrade is kinda weak unless you take him for a homing beacon so thats at your digression.

Gun drone squads by them selves are pretty weak. taking them with a commander or someone with a drone controller really buffs up there effectiveness but really they are only good as marker drone squad. take em out.

Edit: this is the new or old battle force box?

So I am only allowed 1 Elite choice in allied detachment?

Well if that's the case then I can just make the XV* suits body guard to my commander like you said.
Also for the stealth team do you suggest just taking the markerlight out completely?

I am still not 100% sure the purpose of the marker light I just added it in.

Well for the gun drones I was thinking they could just be cannon fodder and they have a 30 inch zone of control because they can move 12 inches and shoot 18inches which might be a good thing but im not sure.


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this is the new battle force

Then bear minimum things that you want.

Commander w/ Iridium armor, Pure tide chip leaves 4 more weapon or system slots available
Body guard w/ whatever you want.

Fire Warrior squad of 12 w/ transport with Dpod. (i suggest upgrading it with SMS as ignore cover and LOS is useful against things that use cover like eldar and other tau.)

Stealth suit team of 3 w/ burst cannons (option equipment would be ATS or precision shooting special weapons or CDS for more defensive play. and then you could upgrade a shas ui for a homing beacon if you intend on deep striking your commander and body guard close but its something like 20 points (not really worth it))

FA: Take the piranha with a FB ( give it ether a D pod or a Sensor spine) this guy is for suicide anti tank so keep it cheap)

everything with out parentheses should be like 530 points giving you a lot of wiggle room to finish your commander and body guards. the points that markerligths cost outside of pathfinders and a few other things dont make it worth it. + you also have to hit, generally being BS 3 or less.

Edit: yes only 1 elite for allies

Well I reworked this list and added in a few more suits and stuff. So let me know if this works (I looked at a few lists to see what some other people has on theirs to give me an idea).

HQ
Commands with burst cannon, missile pod, shield gen and 2 gun drones 159 points
body gaurd team 2 suits
1 with plasma rifle, flamer and shield gen
1 with missile pod, burst cannon and shield gen
4 gun drones
207 points
TOTAL 366

Troops
Firewarrior team (12 models)
1 shas'ui
2 gun drones
142

Firewarrior team (12 models)
1 shas'ui
2 gun drones
142
TOTAL 284

Elites
XV8 crisis team (3 suits)
1 with fuison blaster, fuison blaster, target lock
1 with missile pod, missile pod, target lock
1 with plasma rifle, plasma rifle, target lock
1 upgrade to shas'vre
6 gun drones
256 points

Stealth team
1 with fusion blaster
95 points
TOTAL 348

TOTAL POINTS 998

I also have a piranha laying around if I do this so I could add that for about 50 points.

Do you think thats a good start?