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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:15:06
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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http://news.yahoo.com/u-report-says-major-weapons-designs-compromised-chinese-033726944.html
WASHINGTON/CANBERRA (Reuters) - Chinese hackers have gained access to designs of more than two dozen major U.S. weapons systems, a U.S. report said on Monday, as Australian media said Chinese hackers had stolen the blueprints for Australia's new spy headquarters.
Citing a report prepared for the Defense Department by the Defense Science Board, the Washington Post said the compromised U.S. designs included those for combat aircraft and ships, as well as missile defenses vital for Europe, Asia and the Gulf.
Among the weapons listed in the report were the advanced Patriot missile system, the Navy's Aegis ballistic missile defense systems, the F/A-18 fighter jet, the V-22 Osprey, the Black Hawk helicopter and the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.
The report did not specify the extent or time of the cyber-thefts or indicate if they involved computer networks of the U.S. government, contractors or subcontractors.
But the espionage would give China knowledge that could be exploited in a conflict, such as the ability to knock out communications and corrupting data, the Post said. It also could speed China's development of its defense technology.
In a report to Congress this month, the Pentagon said China was using espionage to modernize its military and its hacking was a serious concern. It said the U.S. government had been the target of hacking that appeared to be "attributable directly to the Chinese government and military."
China dismissed the report as groundless.
China also dismissed as without foundation a February report by the U.S. computer security company Mandiant, which said a secretive Chinese military unit was probably behind a series of hacking attacks targeting the United States that had stolen data from 100 companies.
AUSTRALIAN "SECURITY BLUNDER"
In Australia, a news report said hackers linked to China stole the floor plans of a A$630 million headquarters for the Australia Security Intelligence Organization, the country's domestic spy agency.
The attack through the computers of a construction contractor exposed not only building layouts, but also the location of communication and computer networks, it said.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei, asked about the Australian report, said China disapproved of hacking.
"China pays high attention to the cyber security issue and is firmly opposed to all forms of hacker attacks," Hong said at a daily briefing.
"Since it is very difficult to find out the origin of hacker attacks, it is very difficult to find out who carried out such attacks," Hong said. "I don't know what the evidence is for media to make such kinds of reports."
Repeating China's position that every country was susceptible to cyber attacks, Hong said nations should make joint efforts towards a secure and open Internet.
Australia security analyst Des Ball told the ABC that such information about the yet to be completed spy headquarters made it vulnerable to cyber attacks.
"You can start constructing your own wiring diagrams, where the linkages are through telephone connections, through wi-fi connections, which rooms are likely to be the ones that are used for sensitive conversations, how to surreptitiously put devices into the walls of those rooms," said Ball.
The building is designed to be part of an electronic intelligence gathering network that includes the United States and Britain. Its construction has been plagued by delays and cost over-runs with some builders blaming late design changes on cyber attacks.
The ABC report said the Chinese hacking was part of a wave of cyber attacks against business and military targets in the close U.S. ally.
It said the hackers also stole confidential information from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, which houses the overseas spy agency, the Australian Secret Intelligence Service, and had targeted companies, including steel-manufacturer Bluescope Steel, and military and civilian communications manufacturer Codan Ltd.
The influential Greens party said the hacking was a "security blunder of epic proportions" and called for an inquiry, but the government did not confirm the breach.
Prime Minister Julia Gillard said the reports were "inaccurate", but declined to say how.
Despite being one of Beijing's major trade partners, Australia is seen by China as the southern fulcrum of a U.S. military pivot to the Asia-Pacific. In 2011, it agreed to host thousands of U.S. Marines in near-permanent rotation.
Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei was last year barred from bidding for construction contracts on a new Australian high-speed broadband network amid fears of cyber espionage.
The Reserve Bank of Australia said in March that it had been targeted by cyber attacks, but no data had been lost or systems compromised amid reports the hackers had tried to access intelligence negotiations among a Group of 20 wealthy nations.
And once again China makes a mockery of the crappy network security of the rest of the world. Though I do wonder if it's the Chinese government or Chinese citizens hoping to sell this stuff on the black market. How much is really known about the origins of these attacks?
On the bright side, at the rate things are going they can have the F35
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:17:21
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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I wonder what Australia now thinks of their biggest trading partner?/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:20:41
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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I assume that much like us, its a love hate relationship
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:23:58
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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I can just see all the knock-offs flooding the arms markets now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:25:19
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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I'd imagine that at least some would share my viewpoint of who cares. Country which is far bigger than us and has way more money is stronger than us and manages to steal from us something which really doesn't matter.. Big woop. America could steal the plans just as easily
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:31:03
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Do you care that they stole blueprints to your intelligence hub/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22685332
Foreign Minister Bob Carr says a report alleging Chinese hackers stole plans for Australia's new intelligence hub will not hit ties with Beijing.
On Monday the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported blueprints setting out the building's cable layouts and security systems had been illegally accessed by a server in China.
Mr Carr did not comment directly on the claims.
But he said the government was "very alive" to cyber security threats.
"I won't comment on whether the Chinese have done what is being alleged or not," he said.
"I won't comment on matters of intelligence and security for the obvious reason: we don't want to share with the world and potential aggressors what we know about what they might be doing, and how they might be doing it."
But he said the ABC report had "no implications" for a strategic partnership. "We have enormous areas of co-operation with China," he said.
'Listen in'
The claims were made in a report on Chinese cyber-espionage by ABC's Four Corners investigative programme on Monday night.
The programme alleged that blueprints to the new intelligence headquarters in Canberra - due to be finished last year but delayed - were stolen in a cyber attack on a contractor that was traced to a server in China.
The plans detailed communications cabling and server locations, floor plans and security systems, the programme alleged.
It quoted Professor Des Ball, an expert on cyber security from the Australian National University, as saying access to such details would enable an outside party to identify rooms used for sensitive activities and work out how to monitor them.
The programme also alleged that the Prime Minster's Office, the Defence Ministry and the Department of Foreign Affairs had been breached in hacking operations.
Four Corners did not identify the source of its information.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei rejected the claims, saying "groundless" accusations would not solve the problem of cyber hacking.
"Since it is technically untraceable, it is very difficult to find the source and identify the hacker,'' he said. "Therefore we have no idea what is the evidence for their report in which they make the claim with such certainty.''
Earlier this year, hackers from China - which is now Australia's biggest trading partner - were thought to be behind an attack on the Reserve Bank of Australia, the Australian Financial Review reported.
The issue of cyber espionage looks set to be high on the agenda when the US and Chinese presidents hold their first summit in California next month.
Earlier this month, the Pentagon for the first time directly accused the Chinese government and military of targeting US government computers as part of a cyber espionage campaign aimed at collecting intelligence on US diplomatic, economic and defence sectors.
China called the report "groundless", saying it represented "US distrust".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:34:12
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Apparently that building is a giant cluster gak anyway, just like the F35. So maybe we can just let them have that too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:48:38
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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Its ASIO, its not like they get CIA money, or the Chinese equivalent. Its not surprising, just a bit rude.
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 13:21:03
Subject: Chinese Hackers Strike Again
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords and I'd just like to say that as a wargamer I can be very useful in helping them gather nerds to toil in thier air conditioned Internet mines...
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The Screaming Beagles of Helicia V
Hive Fleet Jumanji
I'll die before I surrender Tim! |
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