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I understand that nurgle's plague marines seem to be the best choice for troops. what about noise marines with icon of excess? arn't they just as good but better shooting? also what is your opinion about chaos bikers with mark of nurgle making them tough 6? im kinda new and i seem to have really taking a liking to noise marines and warbikes. am i wrong? im just looking for some advice before i purchase these things. thanks

PM get an advantage for being able to take 2 spec weapons such as the flamer, and melta/plasma gun at 5 man instead of 10. You can snipe an Icon of Excess holder and all NM lose FNP. Inflicting ID does not allow FNP saves so a T4 NM easily dies to S8 ap3 without cover. A demolisher cannon with S10 is required to ID a PM. NM can purchase ccw while PM are armed with plague knives that have poison 4+. NM can hit at I5 while PM blight grenades negates enemy charge attack bonus. PM can kill hordes with flamers, melt AV 13&14, Kill TEq with rapid plasma guns. NM mow down guards, orks, armor save 5+ with sonic blasters while the blastmaster is a small blast that kills MEq but a Heldrake with a bale flamer can already do that. The Blast Master has a small chance to pen AV13 and an even lesser chance to glance AV14.


Bikers, MoS, IoE are like fast moving PM. Bikers, MoN can still die to small arms fire since S4 only needs a 5+ to wound a MoN biker. Spawns with MoN is the better choice since they are daemons and get a 5++ invulsave.

Thanks Filch i was starting to think no one would reply.. so you dont think noise marines are very good. i get that they cn get the icon of excess guy sniped and lose FNP but i guess i thought they would hold up better than that. and i was definately thinking nurgle bikes with a chaos lord on a nurgle bike with them. side note what would you use for a chaos lord bike model? i checked games workshop and cant seem to find one.

im kinda new and i seem to have really taking a liking to noise marines and warbikes. am i wrong?

Your never wrong for wanting to run what you like the look or concept of.

What you may be, is 'weak', but even then you can always just consider that a challenge rather than a handicap

 Filch wrote:

Bikers, MoS, IoE are like fast moving PM. Bikers, MoN can still die to small arms fire since S4 only needs a 5+ to wound a MoN biker.

No they need 6+ to wound a Nurgle biker, as they are T6.

 Filch wrote:

Spawns with MoN is the better choice since they are daemons and get a 5++ invulsave.

No they are not. Spawns have got no save at all. You are right about giving them MoN, as 5 T6 fast moving beasts with 3 wounds each is a steal at 180 points.