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I'm looking at getting a Storm Talon (I've got a legal SM attachment to go with my space wolves to get access to the talon)
Just wondering what people feel the best weapon options are?
At the moment I'm mostly playing against Necrons, and loosing quite badly.

In my mind the bolters go best with that standard assault cannon?
   
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Are you facing Cron flyers? Then, don't get the Heavy Bolter and do get the Missiles or Lascannon.

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I like the skyhammers. Your primary job is popping flyers/light vehicles. 3xS7 hits is your go-to option for that, particularly for the upgrade cost. While the other upgrades might help against harder targets, I don't think it's worth the points to get them.

This should also probably be in the tactics forum.

   
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Skyhammer missiles and you are ready!
   
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Typhoon missile launcher is the best all around choice.


The Assault Cannon is equally effective against infantry and vehicles. The Typhoon is the same deal.

The lascannon is only a single shot and isn't effective enough against high armor because of that.

The Skyhammer is too low a strength and the extra range is not valuable enough to compensate. The 48" range of the Typhoon coupled with the speed of a flyer means range should never be an issue.

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I like the Typhoon missile launcher also. As said it goes together well with the Assault cannon.

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Noone dislikes the Typhoon, the problem is that it is so much more expensive that it is not worth it..
   
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I;m doing the analysis on this same question. Skyhammer missiles only increase the total cost by 14% while upping strength on three of the shots to 7, so its a pretty easy decision between them and leaving on the heavy bolters, if you have the points. That being said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the stock standard storm talon at 110 points. Points permitting, that leaves the tl-las and the typhoon. The typhoon is the most expensive of the options and packs the least amount of punch. Two str8 ap3 shots or a couple of useless blasts? Pass. The las, tl'd, str9 ap2 wins out easily for the more expensive options, and is 5 points cheaper to boot.

So, if you are going to upgrade the weapons really the best options are the skyhammer missiles or the tl-las. I ran the mathhammer quickly, although I haven't double checked the numbers, the formulas, or done the results for strafing runs vs ground targets. Still, the probabilities are about what I'd expect, the skyhammers win flat out shooting on av 10 and av 11, but lag behind just a bit against av12 fliers, although they are also 15 points cheaper than the tl-las. The nice thing about the las is that you will still get really solid results against av13 vehicles, around 20% chance, and even just a little less than a 1 in 10 chance of dropping a 3hp/4hp av14 in one round of shooting, so it makes the decision a little more difficult. Which one to take? I guess that depends on the rest of your list and what kinds of targets you usually see on game night.

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