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I may be a little early on this but the new codex is now released so I believe it's officially time to start talking about this.

Simple: what do you think? What units are better now, what are worse?
Any newcomers or something you should leave at home from now on?
Is the new codex competitive?

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And with this new Codex I'm planning to start Eldar now.
I have 10 DA, Farseer and 3 Warlocks. Where to build from this?

Edit ~ (Not sure if this is the place for this?)

The battleforce is currently a good buy as the units contained are all worth taking.

You will need more troops choices - rangers, more dire avengers, guardians, or guardian jetbikes. All good. Warlocks can accompany the guardian units.

Then probably think about some MCs or tanks from the heavy support section, and/or some aspect warriors from the elites or fast attack section.

At this moment in time, lots of people can tell you what looks good/bad from the new codex, but it will take time for a consensus to develop. So go nuts and experiment.

Hey all,

Please check out my codex review which tries to answer the qu. of codex competitiveness

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/530592.page

In summary I believe yes, some units are better than others but they're a lot of really good units and it has the potential to cover all the bases well and could easily be a very strong 'dex.

Cute Hydra

Right now I'm trying to make a decision as to which is better at 1500 points (at 1750 I'm totally running both) in a mostly fast-moving list:

A: 3 Vypers with Scatter Laser and Shuriken Cannon (210)*
B: 10 Warp Spiders, Exarch with Fast Shot and Twin-Linked (215)

The Vypers are putting out 21 S6 shots @24" (just under half of them twin-linked) but only have an effective 6 T6 wounds and a 5+ cover save.

The Spiders are putting out 25 S6 (possibly S7) shots @12", with 10 T3 wounds and a 3+ armor save.

Strangely enough, the Warp Spiders are actually also more potentially mobile than the Vypers (especially since you can keep shooting with them while moving around).

It's a tough choice for me, because I do love my skimmers, and the ability to stand off at 24" is very useful.

*: Vypers with dual Shurcannons come out at 180 and were my default choice last codex but upgrading to the Scatter seems a no-brainer for 30 points across the squadron and coincidentally also makes them practically equal to the Spiders in cost for purposes of this discussion.

C: 3 Vypers, 1 w/ scatter laser, 2 w/ star cannons, all with shuriken cannons

Scatter laser is going to hit, making you have 4 TL star cannon shots. You should never really put more than one scatter laser in a unit because you lose value as scatter lasers can't TL eachother.

Go with Warp Spiders if you like the models, they are really fun. The Vypers are a little quicker to play as you don't move them in every phase (move, shoot, run, jump)

AV10 open topped skimmers. Still way overcosted. At 40 points with brightlance i would consider them, but at 55? no. Warp spiders every day.

Thatguyoverthere11 wrote:
C: 3 Vypers, 1 w/ scatter laser, 2 w/ star cannons, all with shuriken cannons

Scatter laser is going to hit, making you have 4 TL star cannon shots. You should never really put more than one scatter laser in a unit because you lose value as scatter lasers can't TL eachother.

Not the case. Laser-Lock only applies to the model with the Scatter Laser, not the unit.

(Note: watching people realize this after thinking Guardians with a SL platform were going to be an awesome unit was really, really sad.)