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Where do you measure between models for unit coherency on jetbike models? My friend measures his Reavers from tip of the front to the rear, so a unit of 12 pretty much stretches across his entire army for cover. Don't you measure from the clear base, tho?

Distances between models are measured from the base (pg. 4)

android325 wrote:
Where do you measure between models for unit coherency on jetbike models? My friend measures his Reavers from tip of the front to the rear, so a unit of 12 pretty much stretches across his entire army for cover. Don't you measure from the clear base, tho?

On Fliers and skimmers you meausure from the hull of the model, not the base, ignoring any weapons that stick out further. The only time you use the base for anything thing is when assualting a flier or skimmer. Now the jetbikes are not fliers or skimmers, But im pretty sure they use the same rules. even though they don't seem to be listed.

Exactly, Cerbrus. the book doesn't say and I don't want to play by "just assuming" anything. It's not a vehicle. It comes with a base. I think it's supposed to measured from it, but the stinking book doesn't clarify.

Jetbikes are infantry, they are not vehicles (no AV value). So page 4 applies. Only vehicles have a specific exemption that you measure from the hull (because most don't have a base to start with).

It might be nice if the BRB or Eldar codex clarified, but it's not necessary.

You have the standard unit cohesion rules.
You have the exception for vehicles.
You have the exceptions for flyers and skimmers.

You have Jetbikes, which are not vehicles, let alone flyers or skimmers.

Follow the rules you have.

If your Eldar playing friend wants to claim the Jetbikes are allowed a special exemption, have them look for it and show it to you.

I don't play Eldar. The Jetbikes may very well have some sort of super secret space-elf cheese that allows this.

I do however see a problem in your view of this situation. When a player claims their units can do something that breaks the BRB general rules and you question it, it's up to them to show you why they can. It shouldn't be you showing why they can't

Reminds me of the guy at my FLGS that kept trying to tank shock with his SM bikes 'cause it made sense that he could.'

 cerbrus2 wrote:

android325 wrote:
Where do you measure between models for unit coherency on jetbike models? My friend measures his Reavers from tip of the front to the rear, so a unit of 12 pretty much stretches across his entire army for cover. Don't you measure from the clear base, tho

On Fliers and skimmers you meausure from the hull of the model, not the base, ignoring any weapons that stick out further. The only time you use the base for anything thing is when assualting a flier or skimmer. Now the jetbikes are not fliers or skimmers,

Exactly right.

But im pretty sure they use the same rules. even though they don't seem to be listed.

Completely incorrect.

android325 wrote:
Exactly, Cerbrus. the book doesn't say and I don't want to play by "just assuming" anything. It's not a vehicle. It comes with a base. I think it's supposed to measured from it, but the stinking book doesn't clarify.

Actually it's quite clear on the matter.

Are Jetbikes any of the aforementioned types that get an exception?
No

So than by default they use standard rules and measure to their base.

 Shandara wrote:
Jetbikes are infantry, they are not vehicles (no AV value). So page 4 applies. Only vehicles have a specific exemption that you measure from the hull (because most don't have a base to start with).

No, Jetbikes are Jetbikes. They are a completely separate unit type.

As such, you measure from the base as they are not a vehicle which has a specific exception for where to measure from as there is no base.