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Made in pl
Regular Dakkanaut




Hello everyone,

I am trying to build a decent 1000 pts Space Wolves army to battle Eldar/Dark Eldar. After few attempts i have about 40% battles won.
The problem is, that many of my units tend to die in the first enemy shooting phase. Eg. Predator died after one hit from Ravager's lance. A Dreadnaught got 3 glancing hits from 10 Wyches with Haywire granedes.

Is there anything I should change in my army list to make it survive more and be able to fight the Eldar Back?

My list is:

HQ:
Rune Priest
Wolftooth necklace
Chooser of the slain

Elites:
Dreadnaught
Assault cannon
TL Autocannon

Troops
Grey Hunters (10)
Flamer
Meltagun
Mark of the Wulfen
Drop pod

Grey Hunters (9) (accompanied by Rune Priest)
Flamer
Mark of the wulfen
Rhino

Heavy support
Long fangs (6)
Heavy Bolter (5)

Long Fangs (6)
Missile launcher (5)
Razorback

Predator
Autocannon
Sponson Heavy Bolters

Thank You in advance for any comments.

All best
   
Made in gb
Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle




UK

The dread and pred are dead weight, lots of heavy bolters and of you need to pod in and deny him that first shoot phase is brutal

Raptors (Raven Guard Successor)

Kicking traitor ass since 04

Regularly beat:
Black legion, Farsight enclave, Necrons, Guard and Eldar

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Made in pl
Regular Dakkanaut




Thanks for the tip. I can exchange predator and dreadnaught for two squads of long fangs. But they will die in the first shooting turn. A Ravager can pull 9 x ap 2 shoots.
There is one more issue with getting rid of heavy armour units - if i get assaulted the unit dies instantly. My idea was to keep the eldar at bay with lots of shooting. Am i all wrong here?
   
Made in us
Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader




Pacific NW

The Predator is AV 13 in the front, which is pretty solid (though, of course, Lances ). Was the Ravager able to get any shots at the side armor and was there more than one? A single Ravager will Pen like 67% of the time (22% chance to destroy outright). They're purpose built for anti-tank, so a tank will suffer. Unless you can hide the Predator or go first (and pop his Ravager) its going to suffer.

The Dreadnought is just doomed however. Haywire Grenades are terrifying. Its only hope is to keep out of close combat with those Wytches. I'm guessing he's taking a lot of Venoms?

Honestly, I like the list. It may be more about practicing with it than anything else. Dark Eldar are difficult to face in an infantry heavy list like Space Wolves. You already have two Long Fang packs (though I'd want to bump the Heavy Bolters to more Missiles), and 2 Troops is usually plenty at 1000 points (though I'd want Melta/Plasma not Flamers on those; ditch that WTN on the Rune Priest and make it happen IMO). So it may just be a problem of bad luck + learning target priority against Dark Eldar.

   
 
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