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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 07:15:57
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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I'm currently working on making a Khorne army out of Daemons and Chaos Marines. I'm wondering what units would work well, and which ones I should try to avoid. What I currently have is Skulltaker, Herald of Khorne, Flying DP, 50 Bloodletters, Blood Crushers, Karanak, Fleshhounds. I also have a couple Dark Vengance sets, Khorne Bezerkers, Kharn, and chaos bikers. I'm thinking of adding a Helldrake and soul grinder to the mix. If they ever release a new Bloodthirster model I will be getting that.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd prefer to keep it dedicated to Khorne, or at least undivided for the time being(mainly for aesthetics and fluffy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 12:00:56
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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Thaanos wrote:I'm currently working on making a Khorne army out of Daemons and Chaos Marines. I'm wondering what units would work well, and which ones I should try to avoid. What I currently have is Skulltaker, Herald of Khorne, Flying DP, 50 Bloodletters, Blood Crushers, Karanak, Fleshhounds. I also have a couple Dark Vengance sets, Khorne Bezerkers, Kharn, and chaos bikers. I'm thinking of adding a Helldrake and soul grinder to the mix. If they ever release a new Bloodthirster model I will be getting that.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd prefer to keep it dedicated to Khorne, or at least undivided for the time being(mainly for aesthetics and fluffy)
I'd stay away from most of Khornes units. Some shine brightly but most are garbage. If you want to win games Bloodthirsters, juggernaut khorne lords( CSM), Flesh Hounds.
Other daemon princes get the job done better, blood crushers are ok but expensive and you will cry when you face a decent amount of Str8 weapons. zerkers are ineffiecient, kharne gets outclassed by the chaos lord, and khorne bikers are really meh when compaired to slaanesh and nurgle bikers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 12:01:25
Subject: Re:Help with Khorne
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Looks pretty solid for a Khorne list if you ask me. One thing to consider adding - although Kharn is the better option - if you find you have room for a second CSM HQ, a Lord with the Mark of Khorne, Axe of Blind Fury and Sigil of Corruption really smacks face. You just need to stick him in a Berzerker unit to make sure he reaches combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 20:23:41
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
North Carolina
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Flesh Hounds are awesome, and any Khorne army needing a fast assault (We do) requires at least one if you ally Deamons.
I have been playing Zerker Rush for a long time, and now IMO KB need to be in a raider which means you can run too many zerkers because it just gets to expensive. I plan to run Kharn, zerkers, in a raider as a core center of my assault army. It may to an ally unit to deamons or a primary and spam helldrakes.
Not sure, it will take some thought to come up with a true assault competitive list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 21:17:33
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
Norway, Tønsberg
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Jugger lord - Aobf, MoK, SoC, Jugger - 170
Possesseed x20 - Icon of wrath, MoK - 620
You get 33% chance for 80 I:5 S:6 attacks on the charge..... or 33% for 80 I:4 S:6 attacks with hatred or 33% for 80 AP:3 I:4 S:6 attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 21:25:43
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
North Carolina
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The possessed unit is badass, and unstoppable in combat really, but will it work in actual game play?
Is it worth it to have a 620 point unit of them, that could be destroyed be template quickly, especially with them just being at infantry speed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 21:52:04
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
Norway, Tønsberg
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CannedKhorne wrote:The possessed unit is badass, and unstoppable in combat really, but will it work in actual game play?
Is it worth it to have a 620 point unit of them, that could be destroyed be template quickly, especially with them just being at infantry speed.
I dunno, you get a 5+ invul, 3+ if you bring daemon allies with the grimoire, since theyre friendly daemons. Once they get into CC, i think most things are toast. including vehicles, because of S:6 with Icon of wrath.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 22:22:46
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
North Carolina
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So possessed being deamon units mean they benefit from Grimoire? Thats pretty cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 18:38:46
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Possessed are terrible units
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 18:43:51
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
North Carolina
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Yeah possessed aren't that good... points spent elsewhere is more beneficial in the army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 18:44:06
Subject: Re:Help with Khorne
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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CSM with MoK are like pseudo GH, is you replace non special weps with bolt pistol/ CCW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 18:50:56
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
North Carolina
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Pseudo GH?
CSM with MOK are the best assault troop in the Codex. Just a little better than Zerkers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 18:56:27
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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CannedKhorne wrote:Pseudo GH? CSM with MOK are the best assault troop in the Codex. Just a little better than Zerkers. Eh, they're still not as good as GH, no wolf standard, no MoW, so bolters. edit: speling
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 19:49:51
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Mustela wrote:CannedKhorne wrote:Pseudo GH?
CSM with MOK are the best assault troop in the Codex. Just a little better than Zerkers.
Eh, they're still not as good as GH, no wolf standard, no MoW, so bolters.
edit: speling 
You forgot GH can have a Wolf Guard with any gear he wants namely CF/ SS and a CML.
Then main problem your going to have with this army is Khorne Bezerkers are gak there is no other way to say it.
19pts for a model with 1 attack on his base profile and no power weapons in the unit at all. Grey Knights are 20pts and have 2 attack on there base profile and force weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 19:51:02
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Goat wrote:I'd stay away from most of Khornes units. Some shine brightly but most are garbage.
Well, he's asking about what to do with a khorne army, not whether korne is a good army or not.
Anyways, If I know anything about demons (and I don't), it's that their anti-tank selections are pathetic. It's pretty much take a bloodthirster and hope for the best. The CSM codex, on the other hand, actually has serious options for this, from predetors and obliterators to deepstriking terminators packed with combi-meltas.
If you're wanting to stick to the khorne theme, you can even mark those terminators, rather than just painting them red, giving you both a nasty shooting capability, and also fitting nicely in with a khrone demon list, what with being able to put down more attacks against stuff than a bloodthirster and being able to put down better attacks (power wepaon) than bloodletters, rounding out your close combat. Alternately, if you're going to be going in a more demon chariot route in the future, then, though you can't mark them, you can take maulerfiends which will add more fast armor, but with close combat insanity to it, which feels very khorne-like.
Otherwise, I think I'd avoid berzerkers, but regular CSM with BP+ CCW gives you a cheap source of a lot of Sv3+, which is a kind of durability that demons naturally lack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 20:34:37
Subject: Help with Khorne
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Morphing Obliterator
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notyorkskargrinironhide wrote: Mustela wrote:CannedKhorne wrote:Pseudo GH?
CSM with MOK are the best assault troop in the Codex. Just a little better than Zerkers.
Eh, they're still not as good as GH, no wolf standard, no MoW, so bolters.
edit: speling 
You forgot GH can have a Wolf Guard with any gear he wants namely CF/ SS and a CML.
Then main problem your going to have with this army is Khorne Bezerkers are gak there is no other way to say it.
19pts for a model with 1 attack on his base profile and no power weapons in the unit at all. Grey Knights are 20pts and have 2 attack on there base profile and force weapons.
Er... GKs have 1 attack on their profile, GK terminators have 2.
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