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Hey Dakka Dakk YMTC:

I've been a longtime dakka reader but never once have I been a member of a forum, let alone posting a topic. Figured I'd give it a shot for once...

The last time I played 40k was in 4th ed, so I have no experience in 5th or 6th ed. I've read the 6th ed rules twice now.

I've recently restarted my Speed Freaks army and will be using a Big Mek with KFF. I'm reading the Ork Takktika that was written in 5th ed in regards to the Big Mek KFF in which it states that he will give a 4+ cover to vehicles.

In the most recent Ork FAQ for 6th ed ver 1.4 it states this: "Page 34 – Mekboyz, Kustom Force Field. Change the second sentence to read “A kustom force field gives all units within 6" of the Mek a cover save of 5+. Friendly vehicles within 6" are counted as being obscured and have a 5+ cover save”. Note the separation of terms "obscured" and "5+ cover save".

In the 6th ed rulebook on pgs 74-75 are the rules for Vehicles and Cover - Obscured targets, stating an obscured vehicle counts as 5+ cover in open terrain. It then goes into detail about front armor being hidden from view granting +1 cover for shots originating from the front.

My understanding of these rules tell me that in the open a trukk/battlewagon within range of the Big Mek KFF will receive a 5+ cover save, since it counts as obscured but does not receive the +1 cover for having the front being hidden from view. My confusion begins with the FAQ stating that they have obscurity AND a 5+ cover save.

My questions: How did the KFF give a 4+ cover in 5th edition? Was it an FAQ or rule in 5th in regards to KFF that is different than the one is 6th? Am I interpreting the rules wrong and the KFF still gives a 4+ cover in the open (meaning that the FAQ specified that it has a 5+ as well as obscure +1)?

Apologies in advance if I'm posting an already answered topic. I've been searching for a while and couldn't find a previous post. Thanks in advance!

in 5th it did grant a 4+ cover save to vehicles. in 6th, they amended it to just be a 5+ The obscuring grants the 5+ cover save.

you should read the 6th ed faq's, they had a lot to say about the KFF

In 5th ed the standard cover Save was a 4+. 6th ed reduced that to 5+.
The FAQ just brings the KFF into line with 6th edition rules.

Thanks, I figured as much. In the FAQ I saw the question stating it was a 5+ cover save, but I was hoping for the better . Having two types of obscurity (one with front armor hidden) without name differentials got me confused.