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Made in nz
Disguised Speculo





If one model is holding The Relic, and say a template is fired at the unit, do you roll their toughness, save etc seperately to see if that particular model dies?

My understanding is that you don't, but the last guy I played with had me roll for it.

However, that was Jaws of the World Wolf, which may be another thing entirely.

Would appreciate it if someone could help clear this up!

Cheers
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Buffalo, NY

The model carrying the relic is just a regular guy and the fact he has the relic is ignored for shooting purposes. THis means if the unit is shot at you roll to wound the unit as normal, allocate wounds as normal, take saves as normal, etc.

JotWW is not a template "weapon". It follows its own rules and can in fact be used to snipe models (which is why it is broken as heck).

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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Made in nz
Disguised Speculo





Yeah it dropped my Relic carrier 3 times and ended up denying me the relic. Still won though, but it was pretty annoying
   
Made in us
Infiltrating Broodlord





Eureka California

Aside from any SR or special attack, as far as I know you would only roll to see if that model is hit when using random allocation.

-It is not the strongest of the Tyranids that survive but the ones most adaptive to change. 
   
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Fixture of Dakka




Vanished Completely

I would recommend taking a look at the beam description under the psyker part of the basic rule book. Jaws is pretty much one of those only the one listed in the book is just an example, most following their own wording for what they do and the one you faced, others have said it is broken and that is an understatement. All the rest of the basic beam psykic powers appear to be intact, which is why it is very good at sniping individual models and gives it considerable amount of power. To make it a little worse in my opinion is the fact only the initial model hit gets a deny save to these types of beam attacks, though it is a success for them all.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/06/05 04:15:47


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