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BRB Pg 124. ' Players can choose not to deploy up to half of their units(rounding up, keeping them as reserve .... Units that must start in reserve are ignored for the purpose of working out how many other units may do so.'

Okay. It says that player CANT reserve more than half of their army.

What if i play necrons and I decided to put everything in night scythe

which are Flyer.

BRB, Pg 80. Aerial Support : Flyer Must Begin The game as reserve.

It seems to be a contradiction here?

The way I interpret it. RAW seems to suggest that I can not field anything at all in turn 1 and everything comes in on turn 2 and at the same time, it is contradicting itself?

Is there a FAQ on this that I missed?

Help me out guys. Appreciate it. Thanks.

No, as it says units that must start in reserve don't count. It's as if they don't exist when you're working out how many you are allowed to put in reserve. There was a FAQ that extended that to every model embarked in something that must start in reserve as well. It already applied to models embarked in Dedicated Transports, but the FAQ makes it clear that IC's and other units in non-dedicated transports work as well.

So if you decided to embark everything in Night Scythes, everything must start in reserves so you start turn 1 with no models on the table. At the end of turn 1 you then automatically lose because you have no models on the table. So while you can do it, you probably shouldn't.

Chrysis wrote:
No, as it says units that must start in reserve don't count. It's as if they don't exist when you're working out how many you are allowed to put in reserve. There was a FAQ that extended that to every model embarked in something that must start in reserve as well. It already applied to models embarked in Dedicated Transports, but the FAQ makes it clear that IC's and other units in non-dedicated transports work as well.

So if you decided to embark everything in Night Scythes, everything must start in reserves so you start turn 1 with no models on the table. At the end of turn 1 you then automatically lose because you have no models on the table. So while you can do it, you probably shouldn't.

Are you saying that. By doing that I just tabeld myself? LOL.

Yes, you're tabled if you have no units on the board at the end of turn one. Silly plan!

Note that that only applies at the end of a Game Turn, not player turn.

Does Necron have something that can come in from Reserve T1?

Deathmarks? But that's relying on your opponent having something arrive from reserves on their first turn... (Drop Pod / Mordrak etc.?)

The most recent FAQ for either the BRB or Necrons (or both, can't remember) changed the rule so you can't use the C'tan power to bring in a Flier on turn one.

So the ultimate answer is NO. I cant do do that? Not unless I want to table myself on turn 1?

So. it would mean the rule of you can only reserve half of your army preceded the rules of units that MUST be in reserve are not counted in that half?

kissmymom wrote:
So the ultimate answer is NO. I cant do do that? Not unless I want to table myself on turn 1?

So. it would mean the rule of you can only reserve half of your army preceded the rules of units that MUST be in reserve are not counted in that half?

No. It is 100% legal to start with your entire army in Reserve if they're all embarked in Flyers.
It's a bad idea because you'll lose the game.

kissmymom wrote:


So. it would mean the rule of you can only reserve half of your army preceded the rules of units that MUST be in reserve are not counted in that half?

No, it IS possible to have your whole army in reserves if all of them HAVE to be. But because of a different rule, you'll lose at the end of turn 1 for not having anything on the table.

Droppod armies can actually do that because they have to arrive on T1.

My advice would be to put a tough unit somewhere out of LoS.