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OK, so I need some feedback on my list since I have limited experience in 6th with IG and am not 100% sure if the old stuff I loved is still good.

ADL

CCS
Lascannon
Chimera

Platoon
PCS w/Flamer (goes in Vendetta)
IS
IS (will probably blob these guys and use them as bubble wrap behind the ADL but in front of my Chimeras)

Veteran Squad
3x Melta
Chimera

Veteran Squad
3x Melta
Chimera

Veteran Squad
3x Melta
Chimera

Veteran Squad
3x Melta
Chimera

Vendetta

Manticore

Leman Russ Executioner

Leman Russ Executioner

So basically sit back, shoot and scoot on to objectives once the enemy is *hopefully* decimated.

I have a 2nd Manticore, 2nd Vendetta, 9 Leman Russ chassis with options for any turret, a buttload of Guard bodies/weapon options, max 6 chimeras/eq to make other stuff out of.

I know Tau will be a pain, but Tau will be a pain no matter what IG list I write, so I will just have to get lucky with mission, deployment and objectives in that matchup.

Thanks in advance for your C&C

Yep still works just fine. Only thing IG lost was blobs and foot slogging. But I don't think people like doing foot slogging unless they are an masochist.

The only thing you're missing is hull weapons for the russes, but otherwise it's fine

Cool, thanks guys!

@Bunker Bob, yeah I just finished an 1850 Tourney with my Orks, no units over 20, but still just deploying and moving 60 Boyz SUCKED

@Ailaros, do you mean just defining what I would use? I'm thinking HB's just for the tiny synergy it would have, I have a few hull HF's on my Chimeras and Manticore for when the poop hits the fan and the enemy is in my lines. I'd love to fit Las Cannons on there, but I just don't have the points.

Try and fit 4 flamers into that PCS, it will make the drop more effective at clearing objectives.

Since the changes to the 'Gets Hot' rules in relation to vehicles, I haven't considered Executioners to be as good as they used to be purely because they could quite easily kill themselves.

IIRC the main gun doesn't actually get hot, and if you take sponsons they have a 4+ save... Sooo... A 1/6 chance of losing a hull point for 5 3" blasts at S7 AP2? Good tank.

More Dakka wrote:I'd love to fit Las Cannons on there, but I just don't have the points.

But they're points SO well spent. For 55 points, you get a pair of plasma cannons and a lascannon. Tell me where else in the codex you get that kind of killing power for that cheap.

Plus, the king plasma tank is our best anti-MC weapon at the moment, as it's got 6 shots with a threat range of 40" that can start firing turn one. Plus, of course, the S and Ap. I had one of these almost single-handedly take down a full-strength-eldrad-fortuned-wraithguard deathstar a couple months ago. Meanwhile, with multimeltas, you have a half chance of hitting a flier with lascannon or melta that floats nearby while still having the plasma cannons to handle ground targets at range.

In fact, I might go so far as to say it's better to have one las/plas executioner than two without hull weapons, as you get the same number of shots, but one is +S, and russes tend to survive anyways.

Or to put it another way, if you don't have the points for it, then MAKE the points for it. I'd start by axing either the one pointless vendetta or one of your too-many mechvet squads. Either would give you more points for a gun on that ADL for when one of your transports gets wrecked, or for more toys on your CCS, etc.

 Ailaros wrote:

More Dakka wrote:I'd love to fit Las Cannons on there, but I just don't have the points.

But they're points SO well spent. For 55 points, you get a pair of plasma cannons and a lascannon. Tell me where else in the codex you get that kind of killing power for that cheap.

Plus, the king plasma tank is our best anti-MC weapon at the moment, as it's got 6 shots with a threat range of 40" that can start firing turn one. Plus, of course, the S and Ap. I had one of these almost single-handedly take down a full-strength-eldrad-fortuned-wraithguard deathstar a couple months ago. Meanwhile, with multimeltas, you have a half chance of hitting a flier with lascannon or melta that floats nearby while still having the plasma cannons to handle ground targets at range.

In fact, I might go so far as to say it's better to have one las/plas executioner than two without hull weapons, as you get the same number of shots, but one is +S, and russes tend to survive anyways.

Or to put it another way, if you don't have the points for it, then MAKE the points for it. I'd start by axing either the one pointless vendetta or one of your too-many mechvet squads. Either would give you more points for a gun on that ADL for when one of your transports gets wrecked, or for more toys on your CCS, etc.

Aha, see this is what I needed to hear. I have been vacillating on the Vendetta but may drop it now. I am a bit worried about dropping a Mechvet squad, they're my haymaker against a lot of armies that get in my face T1 and T2 (Pods, DE, Nids). I could do it, and save myself converting up another chimera however.

If I drop the Vendetta should would a Quadgun be adequate AA?

I do like the idea of putting full plasmas and a LC up on the executioners but at the point level I'm worried it's too many eggs in one basket and they'd just be Drop Pod Melta bait (there is a lot of pods in my local). Have you found your LR chasis have been surviving to get off a good shot or two at least??

 RaptorsTallon wrote:
Since the changes to the 'Gets Hot' rules in relation to vehicles, I haven't considered Executioners to be as good as they used to be purely because they could quite easily kill themselves.

Main gun doesnt have "gets hot" only the sponsons. and with that said you would need to roll a 1 to over heat then a 1,2,3 to lose a hull point, make sure you read over the codex and rule book.

If you think moving 60 boyz sux, try 120+

Oh I have, but in a tourney I would get the dagger eyes all game lol!

Ok so here is a quick revision just to squeeze some more pie-plates in.

ADL

CCS
Chimera
LC

PCS
PIS
PIS

Melta Vets
Chimera

Melta Vets
Chimera

Melta Vets
Chimera

Vendetta (PSC or IS goes here)

Manticore

Manticore

King Plasma (LR Executioner)

King Plasma (LR Executioner)

Just keep those tanks safe and you'll be good. They're target priority 1 especially when they do so much damage and the points you have invested

True, but then that's kind of the IG credo: "If our tanks are dead, were boned"

Clocking at 190 each the King Plasma seems to be decently priced out, not too many eggs in one basket.

Tau, Eldar and DE lance spam and other IG will be an issue, but at least now I am ready to start testing.