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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 22:44:20
Subject: Target locks and ignoring cover?
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Been Around the Block
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If you have a squad of crisis suits and you expend 2 marker tokens on an enemy unit for ignores cover, and use target locks to target to 2 different enemy units do you get the ignores cover from them also?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 23:19:34
Subject: Target locks and ignoring cover?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Puretide1 wrote:If you have a squad of crisis suits and you expend 2 marker tokens on an enemy unit for ignores cover, and use target locks to target to 2 different enemy units do you get the ignores cover from them also?
Re-read Scour on page 68 of the Tau codex. The answer is rather clear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/05 19:26:10
Subject: Target locks and ignoring cover?
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Nasty Nob
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Happyjew wrote: Puretide1 wrote:If you have a squad of crisis suits and you expend 2 marker tokens on an enemy unit for ignores cover, and use target locks to target to 2 different enemy units do you get the ignores cover from them also?
Re-read Scour on page 68 of the Tau codex. The answer is rather clear.
What isn't clear, is whether a shot fired at the initial target retains ignores cover provided it scatters away onto a second unit.
Or if I shoot at a tank, spend two tokens to remove its cover, and then place the blast on the tank so that it also clips a squad nearby, or a second tank.
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ERJAK wrote:
The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/05 23:05:01
Subject: Target locks and ignoring cover?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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davou wrote:
What isn't clear, is whether a shot fired at the initial target retains ignores cover provided it scatters away onto a second unit.
Or if I shoot at a tank, spend two tokens to remove its cover, and then place the blast on the tank so that it also clips a squad nearby, or a second tank.
Or even if the blast is just placed covering a second unit...I think based on the wording of the rule, so long as the weapons were fired at the target unit (the unit that had markerlight counters on it that were expended) then that weapon counts as firing at that target, even if it also ends up affecting other units (and so the ignores cover rule would apply even to those other units).
Its probably not what was intended, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0001/06/21 01:09:54
Subject: Target locks and ignoring cover?
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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this sounds along the lines of TFG stuff...
Pretty obvious markerlights are intended to buff a unit's shooting against a marked unit, the wording may not directly say this if you weave around words, but why would a laserpointer on one unit used to ignore cover, make another unit not even near them lose cover as well?
Even if this is technically legal (which i doubt) everyone would be very disgruntled at you for pulling it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/06 01:04:52
Subject: Target locks and ignoring cover?
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Fixture of Dakka
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It is a good question, which is why it needs to be brought here. Target lock was easy to answer as it clearly doesn't meet the limitation needed under the scour rule to grant a weapon ignore cover. That doesn't answer the side questions that rose, such as blast markers or templates, but the basic rules do outline what happen in those situations and they are a little bit illogical, agreed, but quite clear. The scour rule is pretty defined, it grants the weapon the ignore cover special rule with the additional exception those weapons have to be fired at the marker-lit unit in question. The key word being that they had to be fired, which means the act of shooting at. It doesn't even limit allotting wounds to the marker-lit unit. It simply grants ignore cover to the weapon if it is fired at the marker-lit unit in question. That leads to all sorts of situations where you can still hit other units through the use of templates and blast markers. By the words as written, the additional units hit would also lose out on cover saves as well.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/06 02:07:07
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