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HQ:

Daemon prince, wings,armor,black mace, tzeentch

Troops:
10 csm, 2 melta, rhino, votlw, mon, ccw
10 csm, 2 melta, rhino, votlw, mon, ccw
35 cultists

Fast attack:
Heldrake, baleflamer
Heldrake, baleflamer

Dozer blades on rhinos. I also have access to almost evening in the codex minus tzeentch and slaanesh

If Deathwing, your hell drakes will not be as effective as usual. Also, don't underestimate his preferred enemy. Lastly; if e brings Deathwing knights, they are priority 1.

Even with the drakes being only ap3, they'll still force saved with auto hits and vector strikes. Am I better off with the points bringing something else?

If it was me. I'd drop the heldrakes unless you know he is diving a flyer and then bring one. Then drop those rhinos. He is comig to you let him. Finally with the points from the heldrakes bring Abby. He'll wreck a 5 man squad all by himself, attach him to a unit to survive the shooting, then on your turn assault and watch him crush termies. Take a group wih him so you have anothe champ to challenge with. Don't waste that first turn stuck crushing a DA sargent in a challenge. My best friend plays DA with all terminators, I've stopped playing with DPs and Abby. They are literally auto win units against a terminator army if you can keep them from getting shot at. That's why Abby can be better he can attach and you can soak wounds. Course flying DPs can be hard to hit anyway.

Would typhus a dp plague marines and zombies be more with while?


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Instead I could run this

Hq daemon prince, wings armor, black mace, tzeentch
Typhus

Troops:
10 plague marines, 2 melta
10 plague marined, 2 melta
20 cultists with typhus
10 zombies

Heavy support:
Predator triple las

Looking for more insight as the game is tomorrow. How do you guys feel about my second list?

I like the second list much better. Skillfully tarpit him with the zombies. Typhus should be a beast. Be careful with your DP; they die to massed small arms fire easier than the fluff would suggest.....

Thanks, It'll be strange without the heldrakes but I feel like they won't be very good against Deathwing. what about a vindicator? Would that be a better one-of than a predator?

Very few things are ever good as one-of's, but at least with the Pred you can sit in the back and try to pop a land raider if he brings one. A Vindy would have to get up close and personal - his domain. If he brings Cyclone ML's he'll be able to shoot your Pred, so keep it obscured so it gets a decent cover save, but I like the Pred over the Vindy.

For the points of the poured is they're anything else I should bring instead?

I may have missed the boat but take every plasmagun, plasma cannon and las cannon you can lay your hands on. Then take any walker which has a power fist and when he gets his terminators close pile them in (even with power fists his terminators which survive will be glancing on a roll of 4).

I would drop a HQ unit in favor or more walkers (cheaper) and AP2; helbrutes with plasma cannons spring to mind.