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Tried to make a list to warrant wasting the points on Astorath, wasn't willing to give up on objective scoring capabilities.

Tear it up so I can make it better please.

HQ
Astorath the Grim

Elites
10 Sternguard Veterans
3 - Combi-meltas
3 - Combi-plasmas
2 - Combi-flamers
Multi-melta
Lascannon

Troops
6 Death Company
6 - Jump Packs
3 - Infernus Pistols
Powerfist
2 - Power Swords
Power Axe
Thunderammer

6 Death Company
6 - Jump Packs
3 - Infernus Pistols
2 - Powerfists
2 - Power Swords
Lemartes

10 Tactical Squad
Melta-gun
Plasma Cannon

10 Tactical Squad
Melta-gun
Plasma Cannon

Death Company Dreadnaught
Heavy Flamer
Blood Talons

Heavy Support
Predator
Las Sponsons

Astorath goes with the first until of Death Company, both can DOA or start on board as needed.

Well, Sternguard are great but don't waste them on Heavy Weapons. A few combi-meltas is never a bad idea so that they can pop tin cans but save points on the heavies and the plasma+flamers to get them a rhino or drop pod.

However, I'll say that since DC have relentless, you don't necessarily need Sternguard as fire support. With your bolters, you can rapid fire and still charge if you don't kill your way out of range. The answer for this list is: more Death Company. They're one of the few things in your codex that got better in 6th edition.

How many DC models do you have? Let me know and we'll keep going.

None yet so Ill be buying them based on the lists, not sure where to go with it. Maybe 10 DC with some goodies and swap the Pred for Reclusiarch with Combi-melta? Or keep the Pred and go 2 x 10 DC without re-rolls but then I have to drop a troop choice which will be the DC Dread if I want to be scoring..

What happened to:
"You can include only one unit of Death Company in your army."?

I've always wanted a DC army but the rules prevent it. You can have all DC allies though.

I hope I'm missing something which allows more than one squad?

Taking Astorath removes the DC limit, along wit the 50/50 chance on Red Thirst for other units.

DC with jump packs are pretty awful. I wouldn't use them.

WinterInAshes wrote:
Tried to make a list to warrant wasting the points on Astorath, wasn't willing to give up on objective scoring capabilities.

Tear it up so I can make it better please.

HQ
Astorath the Grim

Elites
10 Sternguard Veterans
3 - Combi-meltas
3 - Combi-plasmas
2 - Combi-flamers
Multi-melta
Lascannon

You are doing to mush here. make 2 5 man squads, each with a drop pod, one of them meltas, one of them flamers or plasma(or both meltas )

Troops
6 Death Company
6 - Jump Packs
3 - Infernus Pistols
Powerfist
2 - Power Swords
Power Axe
Thunderammer

6 Death Company
6 - Jump Packs
3 - Infernus Pistols
2 - Powerfists
2 - Power Swords
Lemartes

10 Tactical Squad
Melta-gun
Plasma Cannon

10 Tactical Squad
Melta-gun
Plasma Cannon

Death Company Dreadnaught
Heavy Flamer
Blood Talons
I love these guys with the talons I like mine with a melta instead of the flamers though, they are already going to eat infantry, but are lacking anti tank and some times just just have to pop that transport to blender the guys inside.

Heavy Support
Predator
Las Sponsons

Astorath goes with the first until of Death Company, both can DOA or start on board as needed.

Some thoughts above in red.

Also a few thing I have learned from running 1 DC squad in nearly all my games in the last 6 months.

jump packs are outrageously expensive on DC
Bolters that can double tap and still charge are great, I personally have stopped using them because I shot myself out of charge range one too many times. But in an astorath list that little extra bit of shooting would be important.

I've found that 6 DC 3 with power axes to be the optimum number and load out for me. 15 str 5 attacks and 15 str 6 AP2 attacks pretty much wipes anything except 10 man termie squads.. This is the number that you want have when you charge, so unless they are in a stormraven or a land raider you'll want 8 or 10 so that some can die and you can still get in to CC with a decent number.

Lemartes: he is fun and he is fluffy but, he is over costed for what he can do IMO, you are better off with 7 more DC for his cost.

I would change it to look a bit more like this:

astorath

sternguard x5 with meltas
drop pod
sternguard x5 with plasma
drop pod

DC x6 with BP + CCW astorath goes here in land raider
3 axes
land raider DT

DC x 10 bolters
2 power axes

DCx 10 bolters
2 power axes

DC dread
Talons and meltagun
drop pod

2 scout squads x5 with camo cloaks

+some support to taste, vindicator(s), or pods/rhinos for the other 10 man DC

The dreadnaught heavy flamer replaces the storm bolter, you still keep the melta.
Alright, I've come up with a revised list:

HQ
Astorath the Grim

Troops
10 - Death Company
3 - Infernus Pistols
Powerfist
Thunderhammer
Power Axe

10 - Death Company
2 - Power Fists
Dedicated Transport
Rhino

10 - Death Company
2 - Power Fists
Dedicated Transport
Rhino

10 - Tactical Squad
Flamer
Plasma Cannon

10 - Tactical Squad
Flamer
Plasma Cannon

DC Dreadnaught
Heavy Flamer
Blood Talons

Heavy Support
5 - Devastator Squad
2 - Missile Launchers
2 - Multi-meltas

Stormraven Gunship
TL Multi-melta
TL Lascannon

Fortification
Aegis Defense Line

2000Pts

Got rid of Sternguard in favour of stronger DC and maintain better scoring units, with Devastators for the fire support.
Astorath and first unit of DC in Stormraven, as well as DC Dread if needed.

Looks cool, it's always fun to play a list that is unique!

Ps: I sent you a pm regarding death company.

This is a solid list, I tried building a death co list before but never could, glad to see someone is able to.

Much better, I would however put the plasma cannon in the devs, and the multi melta in the tacs.

Also the stormraven deployment is fun and works well but you must be weary of getting shot down while zooming, if it does it will double out all the DC with no saves and you'll only get astorath's 4++ or he is dead too. a DC dread will take a str 10 hit to rear armor (auto pen) but I feel that is alway worth the risk for him. Against army's with heavy anti air consider deploying astorath separately to follow a rhino squad and join them after they disembark. Other wise you can more often than not get a turn 3 assault on 2 units of your choice from the dread and the DC. I've found that the key is to not be losing the game too badly by then and you're golden.


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Edit also I would find the points for a quad gun or a comms relay for the ADL, it seems like a waste to have such good options and not using them.

No offense, but this list will get mulched by a good 2K list.

You've got too much reserved, and even with a comm link, you can't assault till turn 3. Assuming you survive the zoom turn. I don't see anything else with AV 12 or above, so it probably won't survive. BA can't afford to piecemeal themselves like this.

Another problem is that a list doesn't need heavy anti-air to crash a single Stormraven at 2K. They can snap shot it to death, because they can afford to fire their entire list at it.

I'm thinking lose the infernus pistols and switch the thunderhammer for a powerfist to afford the quad gun, then lose 2 DC from Astoraths squad and 1 from each of the others to swap the Stormraven for a LR w/ Multi-melta. Then maybe upgrade power axe to a power fist.
Any ideas?

WinterInAshes wrote:
I'm thinking lose the infernus pistols and switch the thunderhammer for a powerfist to afford the quad gun, then lose 2 DC from Astoraths squad and 1 from each of the others to swap the Stormraven for a LR w/ Multi-melta. Then maybe upgrade power axe to a power fist.
Any ideas?

That sounds like a solid plan except for dual heldrake lists eating your lunch with little you can do about it. The quadgun, while good, is nowhere near enough anti air to reliably take down flyers(hell drakes and storm ravens especially).

Also the DC dread MUST have some delivery vehicle. honestly the only way I would run a DC dread is with a raven, Otherwise I would run a furioso with a frag cannon and heavy flamer in a drop pod, aka fragnaught.


Pros and cons:

The SR is much more risky form of transport, but gives AA firepower and can deploy 2 assault units hopefully by turn 3. It must hover to let its units assault as well so then it is much more vulnerable to being killed.

The LR is much safer mode of transport can be a thorn in the side of the enemy the whole game. But only transports one unit and provides no dedicated AA. Units inside have a decent chance of assaulting on turn 2, and near 100% by turn 3.

It is a matter of preference and play style, if you have both models I would say try them out for yourself and see what you like the best.

I thought you could only get 1 infernus/plasma pistol per 5 models, so your unit of 10 death company would only be able to equip 2 of them.