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If an autarch was deep striking with warp spiders and had the no scatter warlord trait, does that mean the unit does not scatter? Or does the Autarch have to be on the board in order for the Warlord trait to take effect?

So your plan would be to place the autarch first then his unit? Don't you place a member of a deepstriking squad as a token then scatter him then place the others?
So the autarch would scatter beforehand I'd say, you'd then deploy the rest of his squad around him normally

Ignoring the unit for a moment, if the Autarch was deep striking by himself, would he scatter? Wherever you place him, he's always going to be within 6" of the Warlord?

Quanar wrote:
Ignoring the unit for a moment, if the Autarch was deep striking by himself, would he scatter? Wherever you place him, he's always going to be within 6" of the Warlord?

Good one, thanks

I'd say the Warlord would scatter as normal, but following units like the Spiders would not scatter if placed within 6".

The Warlord is not on the table before he deep strikes, therefore he is not landing within 6" of himself. The rule says that "units...do not scatter as long as the first model placed is within 6" of the Warlord." How are you going to do this, if he's not on the table?

It's even covered in the fluff - "The Warlord can...position himself where his reinforcements are due to arrive." He scatters magically to the exact point everyone else is going to arrive. Bam!

Devil's advocate version - if the intention was for the Autarch not to scatter, why not specifically state as much? This is how it's worked for other Warlord traits and special character abilities that allow a model and their unit not to scatter (such as Tau and Commander Dante).

 Super Ready wrote:
Devil's advocate version - if the intention was for the Autarch not to scatter, why not specifically state as much? This is how it's worked for other Warlord traits and special character abilities that allow a model and their unit not to scatter (such as Tau and Commander Dante).

So instead of having the autarch with the spiders, It would be better to DS them separately so the planned attachment of the Autarch to the unit would happen automatically (in addition the to the Autarch not scattering) when the spiders are within 1"-2" or him?

Yes, that would work - the Autarch would attach at the end of the Movement phase. Note though that this means any Interceptor fire directed at the unit must be taken on the Warp Spiders only - as they're not joined yet.

Actually, interesting situation it would cause for interceptor.

It would fire at either the warlord or the warp spiders as separate units, or both of them as one whole unit. This is all because both take place at the end of the movement phase. Luckily for the player coming in from deep strike, he gets to chose if he joins first or if the interceptor goes first, as per page 9.

Oh, it is the end of the phase, isn't it? My bad. I'm thinking of Coteaz' ability.

JinxDragon wrote:
Actually, interesting situation it would cause for interceptor.

It would fire at either the warlord or the warp spiders as separate units, or both of them as one whole unit. This is all because both take place at the end of the movement phase. Luckily for the player coming in from deep strike, he gets to chose if he joins first or if the interceptor goes first, as per page 9.

either way I could just duck behind LOS terrain and then run, shoot, then jump back . Glad to hear that both won't be scattering.